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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:39:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230721223922.GC25639@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79a7c0aa-2580-e77d-8b53-9cf9c5bf4a79@tnetconsulting.net>

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 05:33:11PM -0500, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
> 
> On 7/21/23 5:30???PM, Larry McVoy wrote:
> >It really was super pleasant to realize I'm not the last guy who wants to
> >use C for serious work.
> 
> I thought the same thing about m4.
> 
> I still like m4.
> 
> I've used m4 for more than trivial things within the last few years.
> 
> >I suspect we're dinosaurs but we're cut from the same clothe dinosaurs.

I think you get good at using C, and/or m4, and at a certain point it is
easier to write good code in that than start over in a different set of
tools.

My older son is learning CS and I told him that C is a lot like a
sports car on a twisty mountain road that has no guard rails.  If
you are someone who wants to be on your phone in the car, you are
gonna have a bad time.  On the other hand, if you are an expert 
driver, it's a lot of fun.

Kids these days, all they want is guard rails :)

--lm

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-21 18:53 [TUHS] " Rich Morin
2023-07-21 22:14 ` [TUHS] " Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-21 22:30   ` Larry McVoy
2023-07-21 22:33     ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-21 22:39       ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2023-07-21 23:39     ` Steve Nickolas
2023-07-22  4:37       ` John Cowan
2023-07-22  1:48     ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-07-22  1:55     ` Jon Forrest
2023-07-22  6:45     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-07-22 14:54 ` Rich Salz
2023-07-22 15:24   ` Warner Losh
2023-07-22 16:12     ` Arrigo Triulzi via TUHS
2023-07-22 20:52   ` Dave Horsfall
2023-07-30 17:33 Douglas McIlroy
2023-07-30 18:22 Norman Wilson
2023-07-30 21:43 ` Rob Pike
2023-07-30 23:34   ` George Michaelson
2023-07-30 23:59     ` Erik E. Fair
2023-07-31  0:26       ` Warner Losh
2023-07-31 22:57         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-31 23:05           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-01  2:45             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  1:51         ` Niklas Karlsson
2023-08-01  2:47           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  3:20           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-31  0:41       ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-01  9:22       ` Marc Donner
2023-08-01 10:58         ` Erik E. Fair
2023-08-02  0:37           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-02 14:52             ` Ron Natalie
2023-08-02 21:14               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:20                 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:37                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-02 23:49                   ` Rich Salz
2023-08-02 23:33               ` Dave Horsfall

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