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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 09:34:56 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKr6gn1HaSSZyeKDH1u-b-J56qLxOc6WDBd_npJEk8wE3Jk+-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdPgx0_zkUV7F-E1m3cAmRJtUWNVx2NNLSuMO66TXqeZvM7g@mail.gmail.com>

It must be the fate of all UUCP-like protocols to recapitulate the
life of UUCP. My memory is that ACSNet (quite UUCP like) had both an
execute, and a *@dom.ain and even root@* handling, and that it caused
some DOS consequences.

There's nothing implicitly wrong with remote execution, remote job
entry was a thing back in the coloured book protocols. I guess the
problem inherent in "just do this thing" in UUCP was the permissions
and runtime context. But a chroot() and permissions drop should have
made it less risky. There is the "but anyone can inject it" problem.

Execute on read is just awful. But, now we have HTML to track "they
read it" through URL fetch.

G

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-30 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-30 18:22 Norman Wilson
2023-07-30 21:43 ` Rob Pike
2023-07-30 23:34   ` George Michaelson [this message]
2023-07-30 23:59     ` Erik E. Fair
2023-07-31  0:26       ` Warner Losh
2023-07-31 22:57         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-31 23:05           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-01  2:45             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  1:51         ` Niklas Karlsson
2023-08-01  2:47           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  3:20           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-31  0:41       ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-01  9:22       ` Marc Donner
2023-08-01 10:58         ` Erik E. Fair
2023-08-02  0:37           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-02 14:52             ` Ron Natalie
2023-08-02 21:14               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:20                 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:37                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-02 23:49                   ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03  0:51                     ` [TUHS] Re: python Larry McVoy
2023-08-03  1:20                       ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03  2:53                         ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03  2:55                         ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-03  3:24                         ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03  3:32                           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03  3:55                           ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03  8:32                             ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 14:19                               ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 14:56                                 ` Dan Halbert
2023-08-03 15:20                                   ` will.senn
2023-08-03 22:05                                     ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04  0:24                                       ` John Cowan
2023-08-04 15:17                                         ` Dan Cross
2023-08-05  4:44                                       ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 15:41                                 ` John Cowan
2023-08-03  2:07                       ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03  2:21                         ` Pete Wright via TUHS
2023-08-03  2:56                           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 12:36                         ` Mike Markowski
2023-08-03 13:29                           ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 15:24                             ` emanuel stiebler
2023-08-03 15:39                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-04  1:01                             ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04  1:28                               ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-04  1:58                                 ` Adam Thornton
2023-08-04 15:04                                   ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 15:10                                     ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 16:57                         ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] " Phil Budne
2023-08-03 17:00                           ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03 20:35                             ` [TUHS] Split addressing (I/D) space (inspired by the death of the python... thread) Will Senn
2023-08-03 21:05                               ` [TUHS] " Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:10                                 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:16                                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 21:24                                     ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 22:34                                   ` Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:05                               ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:44                               ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 22:08                                 ` Will Senn
2023-08-03 22:54                                   ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 23:08                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-03 23:15                                     ` Clem Cole
2023-08-04  0:38                                     ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 17:29                           ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 17:51                             ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 18:05                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 21:29                                 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 23:55                                   ` [TUHS] printf (was: python) Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 16:06                                     ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-08-04 16:57                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 21:16                                         ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 21:02                           ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-03 23:47                           ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 23:54                             ` Will Senn
2023-08-04 19:20                         ` [TUHS] " Ed Bradford
2023-08-04 19:47                           ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-05  5:40                             ` Ed Bradford
2023-08-02 23:33               ` [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman Dave Horsfall
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-07-30 17:33 Douglas McIlroy
2023-07-21 18:53 [TUHS] " Rich Morin
2023-07-21 22:14 ` [TUHS] " Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-21 22:30   ` Larry McVoy
2023-07-21 22:33     ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-21 22:39       ` Larry McVoy
2023-07-21 23:39     ` Steve Nickolas
2023-07-22  4:37       ` John Cowan
2023-07-22  1:48     ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-07-22  1:55     ` Jon Forrest
2023-07-22  6:45     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-07-22 14:54 ` Rich Salz
2023-07-22 15:24   ` Warner Losh
2023-07-22 16:12     ` Arrigo Triulzi via TUHS
2023-07-22 20:52   ` Dave Horsfall

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