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From: Ed Bradford <egbegb2@gmail.com>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>,
	segaloco <segaloco@protonmail.com>,
	tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: python
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 14:20:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHTagfHQvXCjtTsQ6Lq6kd2VqTyiVnA_GCnsac5vvz8SqyNhRQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2MvwGmnMJsUa9o9ShAfw0wuakUmkHZ2KyFvjLajNXP48A@mail.gmail.com>

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To all:

Python 3's fstrings
  https://realpython.com/python-f-strings/
seem to me to be a huge improvement over printf
and its close relatives.

What are people's views about the pro's and con's and
how do print and strings compare in usability?

Ed


On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 9:07 PM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

> IMO (Like Larry) no printf stinks.  But the real killer for my sustain for
> Python is the use white space and being typeless.   My daughter loves it
> for her cloud development and we argue a bit.  But it was the first
> language she really mastered in college and she never took a competitive
> languages course so I’m not so sure really had experienced much beyond it
> for real programs.   Maybe I’m just an old fart but between C, Go and Rust
> I’m pretty good.  I do write scripts in Bourne shell and or awk truth be
> known.
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:51 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Rich Salz wrote:
>> > > [Python is] meant for mainly functional programming as I understand it
>> >
>> > Not true. It has some neat functional features (list comprehensions) but
>> > that's not really its intent.
>>
>> I've really tried to like python but any language that doesn't has printf
>> as builtin is not for me.  Yes, I know about their library printf but it
>> is weird.
>> --
>> ---
>> Larry McVoy           Retired to fishing
>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat
>>
> --
> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
>


-- 
Advice is judged by results, not by intentions.
  Cicero

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-04 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-30 18:22 [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman Norman Wilson
2023-07-30 21:43 ` Rob Pike
2023-07-30 23:34   ` George Michaelson
2023-07-30 23:59     ` Erik E. Fair
2023-07-31  0:26       ` Warner Losh
2023-07-31 22:57         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-31 23:05           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-01  2:45             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  1:51         ` Niklas Karlsson
2023-08-01  2:47           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  3:20           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-31  0:41       ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-01  9:22       ` Marc Donner
2023-08-01 10:58         ` Erik E. Fair
2023-08-02  0:37           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-02 14:52             ` Ron Natalie
2023-08-02 21:14               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:20                 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:37                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-02 23:49                   ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03  0:51                     ` [TUHS] Re: python Larry McVoy
2023-08-03  1:20                       ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03  2:53                         ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03  2:55                         ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-03  3:24                         ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03  3:32                           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03  3:55                           ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03  8:32                             ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 14:19                               ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 14:56                                 ` Dan Halbert
2023-08-03 15:20                                   ` will.senn
2023-08-03 22:05                                     ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04  0:24                                       ` John Cowan
2023-08-04 15:17                                         ` Dan Cross
2023-08-05  4:44                                       ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 15:41                                 ` John Cowan
2023-08-03  2:07                       ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03  2:21                         ` Pete Wright via TUHS
2023-08-03  2:56                           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 12:36                         ` Mike Markowski
2023-08-03 13:29                           ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 15:24                             ` emanuel stiebler
2023-08-03 15:39                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-04  1:01                             ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04  1:28                               ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-04  1:58                                 ` Adam Thornton
2023-08-04 15:04                                   ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 15:10                                     ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 16:57                         ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] " Phil Budne
2023-08-03 17:00                           ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03 20:35                             ` [TUHS] Split addressing (I/D) space (inspired by the death of the python... thread) Will Senn
2023-08-03 21:05                               ` [TUHS] " Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:10                                 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:16                                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 21:24                                     ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 22:34                                   ` Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:05                               ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:44                               ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 22:08                                 ` Will Senn
2023-08-03 22:54                                   ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 23:08                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-03 23:15                                     ` Clem Cole
2023-08-04  0:38                                     ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 17:29                           ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 17:51                             ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 18:05                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 21:29                                 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 23:55                                   ` [TUHS] printf (was: python) Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 16:06                                     ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-08-04 16:57                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 21:16                                         ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 21:02                           ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-03 23:47                           ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 23:54                             ` Will Senn
2023-08-04 19:20                         ` Ed Bradford [this message]
2023-08-04 19:47                           ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-08-05  5:40                             ` Ed Bradford
2023-08-02 23:33               ` [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman Dave Horsfall
2023-08-04 20:11 [TUHS] Re: python Noel Chiappa
2023-08-04 20:15 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04 20:45   ` Adam Thornton
2023-08-04 21:17 Douglas McIlroy
2023-08-04 21:30 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 22:36 ` Rob Pike
2023-08-06 19:46 Norman Wilson
2023-08-07  6:48 ` Ed Bradford

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