* Re: [TUHS] History of TUHS
@ 2020-01-17 10:23 Jason Stevens
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From: Jason Stevens @ 2020-01-17 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Warren Toomey, Lars Brinkhoff; +Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
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Of all those CSV repositories, geocities sites and yahoo groups are any indicator, it's going to be up to people to put the past onto plastic and get it out there.
If anything right now the utzoo archives along with people posting source and patches to usenet survived...
Not to mention all those shovel ware CD-ROMs from the 90s that ironically preserved so much early free software and other gems of the pre Linux/NT world.
Github will eventually be shuttered like anything else and all that will remain is dead links.. It really needs to be distributed by nature, but then you have people using Github as cloud storage of all things.
I don't think the CSRG CD's were hot sellers, and I couldn't imagine getting utzoo or TUHS pressed... Although maybe it's something to look at.
It might be interesting. From: TUHS <tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org> on behalf of Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020, 2:47 p.m.
To: Warren Toomey
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of TUHS
Warren Toomey wrote:
> Heh, I hadn't thought that TUHS itself should now be considered
> historical
I often imagine future historians 100 years from now pouring over
mailing list archives and bitrotted GitHub repositories, including those
that contain historical research. Metahistory maybe?
Hello people in the future! How's the singularity treating you?
Sorry about the climate.
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* Re: [TUHS] History of TUHS
2020-01-17 3:48 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
@ 2020-01-17 6:51 ` Warren Toomey
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From: Warren Toomey @ 2020-01-17 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Grant Taylor; +Cc: tuhs
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:48:34PM -0700, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
> Is it worth mentioning COFF anywhere in there?
Hmm, I'm not sure. Based on the mailing list archive at
https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/, I set it up in
July 2018 so that us old farts can talk about old computers
when the topic was not strictly Unix-related.
Cheers, Warren
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* Re: [TUHS] History of TUHS
2020-01-16 22:01 ` Warren Toomey
2020-01-17 3:48 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
@ 2020-01-17 5:46 ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2020-01-17 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Warren Toomey; +Cc: tuhs
Warren Toomey wrote:
> Heh, I hadn't thought that TUHS itself should now be considered
> historical
I often imagine future historians 100 years from now pouring over
mailing list archives and bitrotted GitHub repositories, including those
that contain historical research. Metahistory maybe?
Hello people in the future! How's the singularity treating you?
Sorry about the climate.
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* Re: [TUHS] History of TUHS
2020-01-16 22:01 ` Warren Toomey
@ 2020-01-17 3:48 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-01-17 6:51 ` Warren Toomey
2020-01-17 5:46 ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Grant Taylor via TUHS @ 2020-01-17 3:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
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On 1/16/20 3:01 PM, Warren Toomey wrote:
> Let me know if you have other questions.
Is it worth mentioning COFF anywhere in there?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
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* Re: [TUHS] History of TUHS
2020-01-16 20:52 Warner Losh
@ 2020-01-16 22:01 ` Warren Toomey
2020-01-17 3:48 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-01-17 5:46 ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Warren Toomey @ 2020-01-16 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Warner Losh; +Cc: tuhs
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:52:00PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> Is there a history of TUHS page I've missed?
> When was it formed? Was it an outgrowth of PUPS? etc.
> Again, I'm working on a talk and would like to include some of this
> information and it made me think that the history of the historians
> should be documented too.
> Warner
Heh, I hadn't thought that TUHS itself should now be considered historical,
but I guess 25 years in the IT industry is a long time. A while back I
wrote an answer to this question here:
https://minnie.tuhs.org/Blog/2015_12_14_why_start_tuhs.html
I started the PDP-11 Unix Preservation Society mailing list around
October 1995. Eventually I realised that there needed to be a forum/group
with a wider remit, so I started a separate TUHS list in 2000. Some time
after that, the two lists got merged to be the single TUHS list.
Let me know if you have other questions.
Cheers, Warren
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* [TUHS] History of TUHS
@ 2020-01-16 20:52 Warner Losh
2020-01-16 22:01 ` Warren Toomey
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From: Warner Losh @ 2020-01-16 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
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Is there a history of TUHS page I've missed?
When was it formed? Was it an outgrowth of PUPS? etc.
Again, I'm working on a talk and would like to include some of this
information and it made me think that the history of the historians should
be documented too.
Warner
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