[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Doug McIlroy]

> The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.

I'm not sure of what's being said here. Manuals from
the 4th edition on were phototypeaet, first on a
CAT and later a Linotron (if I remember the name right).

Doug

[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Warren Toomey]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 09:10:43PM -0500, Doug McIlroy wrote:
> > The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.
> 
> I'm not sure of what's being said here. Manuals from
> the 4th edition on were phototypeaet, first on a
> CAT and later a Linotron (if I remember the name right).

Taken from http://www.darwinsys.com/history/hist.html:

The early evolution of the C language has been described elsewhere ...
It is May, 1975, and the new improved Sixth Edition is about to be released...
There follows a succession of releases of the C compiler. The PWB
1.0 release of UNIX, the first outside the labs of a non-Research
from Bell, goes out in 1977. And a special release tape known only as
``Phototypesetter Version 7'' includes a new release of troff as well
as the C compiler, assembler, loader, archiver and bits of the C library.

Cheers, Warren

[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Larry McVoy]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 01:19:18PM +1100, Warren Toomey wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 09:10:43PM -0500, Doug McIlroy wrote:
> > > The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.
> > 
> > I'm not sure of what's being said here. Manuals from
> > the 4th edition on were phototypeaet, first on a
> > CAT and later a Linotron (if I remember the name right).
> 
> Taken from http://www.darwinsys.com/history/hist.html:
> 
> The early evolution of the C language has been described elsewhere ...
> It is May, 1975, and the new improved Sixth Edition is about to be released...
> There follows a succession of releases of the C compiler. The PWB
> 1.0 release of UNIX, the first outside the labs of a non-Research
> from Bell, goes out in 1977. And a special release tape known only as
> ``Phototypesetter Version 7'' includes a new release of troff as well
> as the C compiler, assembler, loader, archiver and bits of the C library.

It's worth noting that Unix was built for troff.  Typesetting patents
if I recall correctly.

[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Milo Velimirović]

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> On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Doug McIlroy <doug at cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> 
>> The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.
> 
> I'm not sure of what's being said here. Manuals from
> the 4th edition on were phototypeaet, first on a
> CAT and later a Linotron (if I remember the name right).

Mergenthaler(-Linotype) Linotron 202

I used one of these beasts, a CRT based phototypesetter, in the late 1980s - 8” floppy disks, serial communication that pretended to be a paper tape reader. One of those times we really needed a Users' Group and there wasn’t one.

See also the memo, recently publicized here, ‘Experience with the Mergenthaler Linotron 202 Phototypesetter, or, How We Spent Our Summer Vacation’ https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~bwk/202/summer.scanned.pdf

I wish I had had access to the schematics at the end of the memo. That would have saved days of work!
 

 - MIlo

[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Warner Losh]

There's also USENET groups that had bug fixes for different versions
of Unix posted to them. comp.bugs.misc leaps to mind. I recall at least
some v7 bug fixes were posted there. Google's interface is kinda lame,
so I couldn't search it very well for v6 bugs, but there were maybe a
dozen or so v7 patches dating from the late 1980's. While not
as convenient as a fix tape, there may be something there of interest.

Warner

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Will Senn <will.senn at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 11/22/15 1:32 PM, Warren Toomey wrote:
>
> Hi all, I just receivd this e-mail from Will Senn who has just joined
> the TUHS mailing list:
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Will Senn -----
> Hi,
> I am conducting research on older UNIX operating systems and came
> across a letter from Richard Wolf to Ian Johnstone, dated Feb 5, 1979.
> On p. 29 of the AUUGN, Volume 1 number 3, Mr. Wolf refers to a set of
> 101 fixes for research version 6. In my research, I am currently using
> v6 and wondered if you knew where I might find the fixes or if the
> bits are known to exist?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Will
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> Will, there was a "50 bugs" tape for 6th Edition Unix that was "released"
> to Unix owners in a very interesting distribution method: seehttp://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20060616172103795
>
> You can find it in the Unix Archive. Look in Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz. It is the file usr/sys/v6unix/unix_changes.
>
> Does anybody know of something which could be described as "101 fixes for
> research version 6"? The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.
>
> Cheers all and welcome to the list Will.
>
> 	Warren
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Warren,
>
> In looking at the Spencer tape, I can see how this might be considered the
> 101 fixes (Wolff's comment that he had only "heard about" the changes,
> might indicate a quantity mismatch). The 52 fixes in
> usr/sys/v6unix/unix_changes represent "the differences between level 6 unix
> and bell unix". On top of those changes, there are 31 additional fixes
> called "CORRECTIONS to level 6 code" and a whopping 57 "programs written
> specifically for or heavily modified for, AUSAM" which I suppose are what
> are referred to as "ENHANCEMENTS to level 6 UNIX". The tape contains "The
> Second Australian Sixth Edition" and has #ifdef's to determine if the
> system is an AUSAM system. The 52 v6 fixes are straightforward to see
> because the tape has the original source in one directory tree and the
> changes in another. Whereas the other enhancements and fixes are a bit more
> challenging because they are related to AUSAM's mods.
>
> Thanks for the warm welcome, the direction, and for posting my question.
>
> One more question, how did you zero in on
> Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz as containing the fixes, the notes
> in the archive, from Spencer, are pretty bare:
>
> unsw3.tar is yet another anthology, this one Australian. I can't find a
> README file, but some quick experimental grepping doesn't find any dates
> later than 1977, so this one may be really early.
>
> Regards,
>
> Will
>
>
>
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[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Will Senn]

On 11/22/15 1:32 PM, Warren Toomey wrote:
> Hi all, I just receivd this e-mail from Will Senn who has just joined
> the TUHS mailing list:
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Will Senn -----
> Hi,
> I am conducting research on older UNIX operating systems and came
> across a letter from Richard Wolf to Ian Johnstone, dated Feb 5, 1979.
> On p. 29 of the AUUGN, Volume 1 number 3, Mr. Wolf refers to a set of
> 101 fixes for research version 6. In my research, I am currently using
> v6 and wondered if you knew where I might find the fixes or if the
> bits are known to exist?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Will
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> Will, there was a "50 bugs" tape for 6th Edition Unix that was "released"
> to Unix owners in a very interesting distribution method: see
> http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20060616172103795
>
> You can find it in the Unix Archive. Look in Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz. It is the file usr/sys/v6unix/unix_changes.
>
> Does anybody know of something which could be described as "101 fixes for
> research version 6"? The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.
>
> Cheers all and welcome to the list Will.
>
> 	Warren
> _______________________________________________
>
Warren,

In looking at the Spencer tape, I can see how this might be considered 
the 101 fixes (Wolff's comment that he had only "heard about" the 
changes, might indicate a quantity mismatch). The 52 fixes in 
usr/sys/v6unix/unix_changes represent "the differences between level 6 
unix and bell unix". On top of those changes, there are 31 additional 
fixes called "CORRECTIONS to level 6 code" and a whopping 57 "programs 
written specifically for or heavily modified for, AUSAM" which I suppose 
are what are referred to as "ENHANCEMENTS to level 6 UNIX". The tape 
contains "The Second Australian Sixth Edition" and has #ifdef's to 
determine if the system is an AUSAM system. The 52 v6 fixes are 
straightforward to see because the tape has the original source in one 
directory tree and the changes in another. Whereas the other 
enhancements and fixes are a bit more challenging because they are 
related to AUSAM's mods.

Thanks for the warm welcome, the direction, and for posting my question.

One more question, how did you zero in on 
Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz as containing the fixes, the 
notes in the archive, from Spencer, are pretty bare:

    unsw3.tar is yet another anthology, this one Australian. I can't find a
    README file, but some quick experimental grepping doesn't find any dates
    later than 1977, so this one may be really early.

Regards,

Will


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[Ronald Natalie]

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I don’t recall 101 fixes, but there was a 50 fixes tape that came out of the labs for version 6.

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[TUHS] 101 fixes for unix V6?

[Warren Toomey]

Hi all, I just receivd this e-mail from Will Senn who has just joined
the TUHS mailing list:

----- Forwarded message from Will Senn -----
Hi,
I am conducting research on older UNIX operating systems and came
across a letter from Richard Wolf to Ian Johnstone, dated Feb 5, 1979.
On p. 29 of the AUUGN, Volume 1 number 3, Mr. Wolf refers to a set of
101 fixes for research version 6. In my research, I am currently using
v6 and wondered if you knew where I might find the fixes or if the
bits are known to exist?

Kind Regards,
Will
----- End forwarded message -----

Will, there was a "50 bugs" tape for 6th Edition Unix that was "released"
to Unix owners in a very interesting distribution method: see
http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20060616172103795

You can find it in the Unix Archive. Look in Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz. It is the file usr/sys/v6unix/unix_changes.

Does anybody know of something which could be described as "101 fixes for
research version 6"? The phototypesetter version of Unix was V7.

Cheers all and welcome to the list Will.

	Warren