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@ 2017-11-03 12:53 ` Lawrence Stewart
  2017-11-05 16:18   ` Steve Johnson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Lawrence Stewart @ 2017-11-03 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)


This caught my attention.  Did early C really have min and max?  Were they used for anything?  In those days I was a BCPL user, which IIRC, did not have such things.

-Larry

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Leo Broukhis <leob at mailcom.com>
> Subject: [Simh] An abandoned piece of K&R C
> Date: 2017, November 3 at 1:14:42 AM EDT
> To: "simh at trailing-edge.com" <simh at trailing-edge.com>
> 
> https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/q/4965/4025 <https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/q/4965/4025>
> 
> In the UNIX V7 version of the C language, there were the /\ (min) and the \/ (max) operators. In the source of the scanner part of the compiler,
> 
> case BSLASH:
>     if (subseq('/', 0, 1))
>         return(MAX);
>     goto unkn;
> 
> case DIVIDE:
>     if (subseq('\\', 0, 1))
>         return(MIN);
> ...
> 
> However, attempting to use them reveals that the corresponding part in the code generator is missing. Trying to compile
> 
> foo(a, b) { return a \/ b; }
> 
> results in
> 
> 1: No code table for op: \/
> 
> The scanner piece survived in the copies of the compiler for various systems for several years. I tried to look for copies of the code generator table which would contain an implementation, but failed. Has anyone ever seen a working MIN/MAX operator in K&R C?
> 
> Thanks,Leo
> 
> _______________________________________________
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* [TUHS] Fwd: [Simh] An abandoned piece of K&R C
  2017-11-03 12:53 ` [TUHS] Fwd: [Simh] An abandoned piece of K&R C Lawrence Stewart
@ 2017-11-05 16:18   ` Steve Johnson
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From: Steve Johnson @ 2017-11-05 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)


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I'm not aware of any C implementation that actually generated code for
MAX and MIN using these operators, although the operators were
certainly discussed with that spelling.  I think many people just
made do with:   #define MAX(a,b)  ((a)>(b))?(a):(b)
despite the fact that it is wrong if a or b has side effects.   And
with register variables, you could generate excellent code for max and
min if that was a consideration.

I think the reason was partly that the operators look a bit clunky. 
 And also that the implementation, like ? :, can be trickier than it
first appears...

Steve

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[TUHS] Fwd: [Simh] An abandoned piece of K&R C

 This caught my attention.  Did early C really have min and max?
 Were they used for anything?  In those days I was a BCPL user,
which IIRC, did not have such things.

-Larry

Begin forwarded message:

FROM: 
Leo Broukhis <leob at mailcom.com [1]>

SUBJECT: 
[SIMH] AN ABANDONED PIECE OF K&R C

DATE: 
2017, November 3 at 1:14:42 AM EDT

TO: 
"simh at trailing-edge.com [2]" <simh at trailing-edge.com [3]>

https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/q/4965/4025 [4]

In the UNIX V7 version of the C language, there were the / (min) and
the / (max) operators. In the source of the scanner part of the
compiler,

case BSLASH:
    if (subseq('/', 0, 1))
        return(MAX);
    goto unkn;

case DIVIDE:
    if (subseq('', 0, 1))
        return(MIN);
...

However, attempting to use them reveals that the corresponding part in
the code generator is missing. Trying to compile

foo(a, b) { return a / b; }

results in

1: No code table for op: /

The scanner piece survived in the copies of the compiler for various
systems for several years. I tried to look for copies of the code
generator table which would contain an implementation, but failed. Has
anyone ever seen a working MIN/MAX operator in K&R C?

Thanks,Leo

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Simh mailing list
Simh at trailing-edge.com [5]
http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh



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