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From: tfb@tfeb.org (Tim Bradshaw)
Subject: [TUHS] UNIX turns forty
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:21:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B54F918-4B51-465A-B70D-94A6B72359B6@tfeb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090519215610.A10612@eskimo.com>

On 20 May 2009, at 05:56, Derek Peschel wrote:

> Interesting question!  And related questions -- When did the current
> start of the epoch get chosen?  Were there any false starts or early
> changes?  (I seem to recall reading about one change, moving forward
> by a year.)  And were there ever any dates in the system that couldn't
> be correctly recorded, because the epoch started too late?

I'm not sure of the case in very early Unix, but I think in recent  
(4BSD and later is all I know well) history, time has always been a  
signed quantity, so you have as long before the epoch as you do  
after.  My wife has an amusing (in retrospect) story about someone who  
decided it would be interesting to see what happened if you set the  
clock on a system (these would have been Suns (definitely) running  
SunOS 4.x (I think, might have been 3)) close to the end of time and  
see what happens when it wraps: the result was a lot of files with  
dates in the long distant past, and a lot of work to fix this (which  
she forced the perpetrator to undertake I think).

However I have some memory that really early Unix (a) had a different  
epoch and (b) counted in different units related to some clock  
interrupt - 60ths of a second? - which gave a rather short wraparound.

--tim



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-20  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-15 16:48 Tim Newsham
2009-05-15 17:27 ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-15 18:09   ` Al Kossow
2009-05-19  2:20   ` Rafael R Obelheiro
2009-05-19 21:31   ` Warren Toomey
2009-05-19 21:49     ` John Cowan
2009-05-20  0:43     ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-20  4:56 ` Derek Peschel
2009-05-20  5:16   ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-20  8:21   ` Tim Bradshaw [this message]
2009-05-19  4:42 Aharon Robbins
2009-05-19  6:13 ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-19 15:12   ` M. Warner Losh
2009-05-19 15:28     ` Michael Kerpan
2009-05-19 15:21   ` John Cowan
2009-05-21 20:39 Brian S Walden
2009-06-05  3:48 Brian S Walden
2009-06-05  4:18 ` Larry McVoy
2009-06-05 11:42   ` Jim Capp
2009-06-05 14:40 ` John Cowan
2009-06-05 16:06   ` Ian King
2009-06-05 18:29     ` John Cowan
2009-06-06  5:20       ` Ian King
2009-06-05 18:40 ` Jason Stevens

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