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From: Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl>
To: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: "tuhs@tuhs.org" <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: when did v8 or later get networking?
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 18:12:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E932445-F917-4E3E-A13A-A8E5557280F3@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W7kwn-tnyq=GZGJY5HbhLEczYr2Tw98Oae+AbV6ph0p_g@mail.gmail.com>

Universal Receiver Protocol, the protocol that Sandy Fraser invented for Datakit. The best description of it (imho) is the patent:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/37/a9/70/46f8c44ebd4e3a/US4852127.pdf

At first the patent is very focused on hardware implementation, but towards the end it gives the algorithms in pseudo-code.

Sandy Fraser wrote a 1993 retrospective paper “Early Experiments with Asynchronous Time Division Networks”. This paper includes a short summary of the origins of the universal receiver protocol, and how it evolved through 3 main steps. Unfortunately behind a paywall.

The implementation for 8th edition (some 750 lines) is here:
https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V8/usr/sys/dev/dkp.c

I think early Plan9 had an implementation of URP as well.


> On 12 Aug 2023, at 17:24, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 11:20 AM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 4:29 AM Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote:
>>>> URP is smaller, but if I remember well it does not handle out-of-order packets or packet duplicates (both of which do not occur in a (virtual) line switched context).
>>> 
>>> Upon reflection, duplicates of course can occur when an ACK is lost.
>> 
>> What's URP? Sounds a little like UDP, is it a typo or something else?
> 
> I thought that might be a typo for UDP, but that doesn't have ACKs.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-12 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-11  9:05 Paul Ruizendaal
2023-08-12  5:08 ` Warner Losh
2023-08-12  5:41   ` George Michaelson
2023-08-12  9:06   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-08-12 10:29   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-08-12 15:20     ` Warner Losh
2023-08-12 15:24       ` Dan Cross
2023-08-12 16:12         ` Paul Ruizendaal [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-08-12 15:05 Noel Chiappa
2023-08-12 18:00 ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-08-10  1:09 [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-08-10  2:38 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-10  2:45   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-10  3:17     ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-10  3:18     ` Rob Pike
2023-08-10  5:44       ` John Cowan
2023-08-10 12:41 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-08-10 14:00 ` Jonathan Gray

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