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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
@ 2015-06-30  2:18 Rudi Blom
  2015-06-30  8:15 ` Diomidis Spinellis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Rudi Blom @ 2015-06-30  2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)


Much to my surprise I see there isn't a WIKI page on Greg Chesson yet?

Maybe some of his friends get get together on submit one ?

Cheers,
rudi

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>    4. Re: We've lost Greg Chesson (Larry McVoy)
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:30:16 +1000 (EST)
> From: Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org>
> To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs at tuhs.org>
> Subject: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
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> Haven't found any more info...
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
> http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's all...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:50:42 -0400
> From: Dave Farber
> To: ip <ip at listbox.com>
> Subject: [IP] Death of Greg Chesson
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Lauren Weinstein"
> Date: Jun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
> Subject: Death of Greg Chesson
> To: <dave at farber.net>
> Cc:
>
>
> Dave, fyi.
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/bRdbj1B1qQG
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:44:58 -0500
> From: Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com>
> To: Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org>
> Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs at tuhs.org>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
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> Greg had been sick for a while.   Sad loss.
> Clem
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
>
>> Haven't found any more info...
>>
>> --
>> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will
>> suffer"
>> http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's
>> all...
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:50:42 -0400
>> From: Dave Farber
>> To: ip <ip at listbox.com>
>> Subject: [IP] Death of Greg Chesson
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Lauren Weinstein"
>> Date: Jun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Death of Greg Chesson
>> To: <dave at farber.net>
>> Cc:
>>
>>
>> Dave, fyi.
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/bRdbj1B1qQG
>>
>> --Lauren--
>> Lauren Weinstein (lauren at vortex.com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 05:52:38 -0700
> From: Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com>
> To: Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com>
> Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs at tuhs.org>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
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> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 07:44:58AM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
>> Greg had been sick for a while.   Sad loss.
>> Clem
>
> Greg is/was a good friend of mine, was my mentor at SGI.  He came up to
> see me a while back, he was sharp as ever.
>
> I put everyone who is sick on my excavator because it makes them feel
> better:
>
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/xtp+excavator/
>
> --lm
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:52:22 -0700
> From: Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com>
> To: Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com>
> Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs at tuhs.org>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
> Message-ID: <20150629135222.GC24918 at mcvoy.com>
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>
> I'm going to be AFK all day but a couple of things:
>
> If anyone wants to come out for the funeral (once I figure out
> when/where that is) I can offer up a place to stay.  Looking at you,
> Clem, love to meet you in person and talk Masscomp.
>
> When I get back to a keyboard I thought maybe it would be nice to share
> some Greg stories, I have enough of them.  So I'll try and do that.
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:52:38AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 07:44:58AM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
>> > Greg had been sick for a while.   Sad loss.
>> > Clem
>>
>> Greg is/was a good friend of mine, was my mentor at SGI.  He came up to
>> see me a while back, he was sharp as ever.
>>
>> I put everyone who is sick on my excavator because it makes them feel
>> better:
>>
>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/xtp+excavator/
>>
>> --lm
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> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
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>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:03:54 -0700
> From: Mary Ann Horton <mah at mhorton.net>
> To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
> Message-ID: <20150629100354.12481zqiuso7z4vu at webmail.mhorton.net>
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> I'm so sorry to hear of Greg's passing.  I still have the "Reach Out
> And Grep Someone" bumper sticker he gave me on my cubicle at SDG&E.
>
>    Mary Ann
>
> Quoting Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org>:
>
>> Haven't found any more info...
>>
>> --
>> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will
>> suffer"
>> http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's
>> all...
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:50:42 -0400
>> From: Dave Farber
>> To: ip <ip at listbox.com>
>> Subject: [IP] Death of Greg Chesson
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Lauren Weinstein"
>> Date: Jun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Death of Greg Chesson
>> To: <dave at farber.net>
>> Cc:
>>
>>
>> Dave, fyi.
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/bRdbj1B1qQG
>>
>> --Lauren--
>> Lauren Weinstein (lauren at vortex.com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren
>> Founder:
>> ?- Network Neutrality Squad: http://www.nnsquad.org
>> ?- PRIVACY Forum: http://www.vortex.com/privacy-info
>> Co-Founder: People For Internet Responsibility:
>> http://www.pfir.org/pfir-info
>> Member: ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
>> Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
>> Google+: http://google.com/+LaurenWeinstein
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/laurenweinstein
>> Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 / Skype: vortex.com
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:25:47 -0400 (EDT)
> From: norman at oclsc.org (Norman Wilson)
> To: tuhs at tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
> Message-ID: <20150629222547.E81011DE391 at lignose.oclsc.org>
>
>   When I get back to a keyboard I thought maybe it would be nice to share
>   some Greg stories, I have enough of them.  So I'll try and do that.
>
> If anyone wants to do that in person, USENIX ATC is next
> week and would be an appropriate venue.  Perhaps a Greg
> Chesson Memorial BOF?
>
> Norman Wilson
> Toronto ON
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:12:46 +1000 (EST)
> From: Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org>
> To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs at tuhs.org>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1506300833490.96902 at aneurin.horsfall.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Larry McVoy wrote:
>
>> I put everyone who is sick on my excavator because it makes them feel
>> better:
>>
>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/xtp+excavator/
>
> For some reason, I am reminded of the hayride scene in "The Dish" (yes,
> they do a hayride from time to time).
>
> See the film.
>
> I've been to PKS, and took a few photos; their machine room has lots of
> computers labelled "Unix" :-)
>
> Oh, they're over here somewhere:
>
> http://www.horsfall.org/The_Dish/
>
> My favourite is http://www.horsfall.org/The_Dish/dscf0010.jpg .
>
> Ah, here it is: http://www.horsfall.org/The_Dish/dscf0017.jpg .
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
> http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's all...
>
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-30  2:18 [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson Rudi Blom
@ 2015-06-30  8:15 ` Diomidis Spinellis
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From: Diomidis Spinellis @ 2015-06-30  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


I'd love to document Greg Chesson's contributions in the Unix history
repository [1].  I'm ashamed to say that I seem to have missed them.
Are there particular pieces of code we know he authored?  Just send me a
brief note, or, even better, a GitHub pull request for the author-path
map files [2].  I will summarize to the list.

[1] https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo
[2]
https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-make/tree/master/src/author-path

Many thanks,

Diomidis

On 30/06/2015 05:18, Rudi Blom wrote:
> Much to my surprise I see there isn't a WIKI page on Greg Chesson yet?
> 
> Maybe some of his friends get get together on submit one ?
> 
> Cheers,
> rudi




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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29  7:30 Dave Horsfall
  2015-06-29 12:44 ` Clem Cole
  2015-06-29 17:03 ` Mary Ann Horton
@ 2015-07-03 18:17 ` asbesto
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: asbesto @ 2015-07-03 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)


Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:30:16PM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:

> Haven't found any more info...

Very sorry for that :(

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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-07-02 15:15       ` Larry McVoy
@ 2015-07-03  4:50         ` Dave Horsfall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Dave Horsfall @ 2015-07-03  4:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Larry McVoy wrote:

> The music pics are here:
> 
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2006/06/index.html

I love that Fender Stratocaster!  Taste, pure taste...  One of the finest 
guitars ever made, along with the Telecaster, the Precision Bass, etc.

And of course, the Gibson Les Paul, ES-50, SG, Firebird...  Yes, I'm a bit 
of an axe-man myself :-)

-- 
Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
http://www.horsfall.org/leapsecond.webm - The talking clock for 2015 (9MB)



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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-07-02  5:31     ` Dave Horsfall
  2015-07-02 14:48       ` Clem Cole
@ 2015-07-02 15:15       ` Larry McVoy
  2015-07-03  4:50         ` Dave Horsfall
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2015-07-02 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


Thanks for the feedback, all good points.  I don't know how much time 
I have, it will depend on who is at the service.  So I'm inclined to
do the music one and the log one and then let someone else talk.
If there seems like there is too much dead time then I'll get up
again and fill in the other ones.

The music pics are here:

http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2006/06/index.html

I printed

http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2006/06/177.html

and

http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2006/06/191.html

as well as the log pics.  I cropped the one of him smiling, it's perfect.

Thanks for your feedback.

--lm

On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 03:31:50PM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Larry McVoy wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to put notes together for Greg's service tomorrow, these are 
> > rough, if anyone wants to suggest fixes I'd love that.  Needs to by 10AM 
> > PST, the service is at 11AM.
> 
> OK, from my Toastmasters experiences (DTM, senior executive, etc), here's 
> some feedback...
> 
> > The theme is Greg was a ninja, I'm only just realizing it.  I've got 
> > lots of stories but they all involve me so if I'm taking up too much 
> > time or boring people all I need to see is one person waving their hand 
> > like "move it along" and I'll wrap it up.  I can whittle it down to just 
> > two stories but here is the list.
> 
> Find out how much time you have, and rehearse them in front of someone 
> with a stopwatch and time cards (in TM, green means OK so far i.e. past 
> the minimum time, yellow means start winding down, red means sit down, 
> because in TM contests you are disqualified if you get the red).  You'll 
> find that people have no idea for how long they can talk, once they get 
> carried away...
> 
> > Ninja Greg does music (have to do this one, I have pictures).
> 
> Agreed (and being a muso I'd like to see those pix myself).
> 
> > Ninja Greg bitch slaps the government with Larry
> 
> Possibly not...  More about you than Greg.
> 
> > Ninja Greg takes Larry to the NSA, Larry ends up staring at pissed Marines
> 
> Ditto...
> 
> > Ninja Greg gets Larry a wife
> 
> Keep it if there's time i.e. run it last.  A short presentation is more 
> memorable than a long one.
> 
> > Happy Greg lifts a log (have to do this one, I have pictures)
> 
> Definitely (I saw the pix).
> 
> -- 
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-07-02  5:31     ` Dave Horsfall
@ 2015-07-02 14:48       ` Clem Cole
  2015-07-02 15:15       ` Larry McVoy
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Clem Cole @ 2015-07-02 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)


I agree with Dave on his comments and will add a couple of more if you
don't mind.
Timing and order is important, as my sportscaster brother points out, also
engage.  I'm not as good as he is at this, but looking at the audience and
trying to make them feel you are talking to them particularly for each of
these stories will make them even more powerful.  So Dave's comment about
practice is spot on.

But for timing and order, I might rethink the sequence you have might be
more effective if you change them a little.   The last one might be a good
one to lead with it. Say something like one of my most wonderful
remembrance was a recent one, his expressions and reaction we 100% Greg and
I'm lucky to use to anchor our relationship....  then tell that story.
 that will get people's attention.  Then build up with some of the others
over your life with him and close with the story of his most important
legacy for you being your family.

My thoughts - do wish I could make it, but I think it's not possible.

Clem



On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Larry McVoy wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to put notes together for Greg's service tomorrow, these are
> > rough, if anyone wants to suggest fixes I'd love that.  Needs to by 10AM
> > PST, the service is at 11AM.
>
> OK, from my Toastmasters experiences (DTM, senior executive, etc), here's
> some feedback...
>
> > The theme is Greg was a ninja, I'm only just realizing it.  I've got
> > lots of stories but they all involve me so if I'm taking up too much
> > time or boring people all I need to see is one person waving their hand
> > like "move it along" and I'll wrap it up.  I can whittle it down to just
> > two stories but here is the list.
>
> Find out how much time you have, and rehearse them in front of someone
> with a stopwatch and time cards (in TM, green means OK so far i.e. past
> the minimum time, yellow means start winding down, red means sit down,
> because in TM contests you are disqualified if you get the red).  You'll
> find that people have no idea for how long they can talk, once they get
> carried away...
>
> > Ninja Greg does music (have to do this one, I have pictures).
>
> Agreed (and being a muso I'd like to see those pix myself).
>
> > Ninja Greg bitch slaps the government with Larry
>
> Possibly not...  More about you than Greg.
>
> > Ninja Greg takes Larry to the NSA, Larry ends up staring at pissed
> Marines
>
> Ditto...
>
> > Ninja Greg gets Larry a wife
>
> Keep it if there's time i.e. run it last.  A short presentation is more
> memorable than a long one.
>
> > Happy Greg lifts a log (have to do this one, I have pictures)
>
> Definitely (I saw the pix).
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
> http://www.horsfall.org/leapsecond.webm - The talking clock for 2015 (9MB)
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-07-02  3:30   ` Larry McVoy
@ 2015-07-02  5:31     ` Dave Horsfall
  2015-07-02 14:48       ` Clem Cole
  2015-07-02 15:15       ` Larry McVoy
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Dave Horsfall @ 2015-07-02  5:31 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Larry McVoy wrote:

> I'm trying to put notes together for Greg's service tomorrow, these are 
> rough, if anyone wants to suggest fixes I'd love that.  Needs to by 10AM 
> PST, the service is at 11AM.

OK, from my Toastmasters experiences (DTM, senior executive, etc), here's 
some feedback...

> The theme is Greg was a ninja, I'm only just realizing it.  I've got 
> lots of stories but they all involve me so if I'm taking up too much 
> time or boring people all I need to see is one person waving their hand 
> like "move it along" and I'll wrap it up.  I can whittle it down to just 
> two stories but here is the list.

Find out how much time you have, and rehearse them in front of someone 
with a stopwatch and time cards (in TM, green means OK so far i.e. past 
the minimum time, yellow means start winding down, red means sit down, 
because in TM contests you are disqualified if you get the red).  You'll 
find that people have no idea for how long they can talk, once they get 
carried away...

> Ninja Greg does music (have to do this one, I have pictures).

Agreed (and being a muso I'd like to see those pix myself).

> Ninja Greg bitch slaps the government with Larry

Possibly not...  More about you than Greg.

> Ninja Greg takes Larry to the NSA, Larry ends up staring at pissed Marines

Ditto...

> Ninja Greg gets Larry a wife

Keep it if there's time i.e. run it last.  A short presentation is more 
memorable than a long one.

> Happy Greg lifts a log (have to do this one, I have pictures)

Definitely (I saw the pix).

-- 
Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
http://www.horsfall.org/leapsecond.webm - The talking clock for 2015 (9MB)



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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-30  3:37 ` Larry McVoy
@ 2015-07-02  3:30   ` Larry McVoy
  2015-07-02  5:31     ` Dave Horsfall
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From: Larry McVoy @ 2015-07-02  3:30 UTC (permalink / raw)


I'm trying to put notes together for Greg's service tomorrow, these are 
rough, if anyone wants to suggest fixes I'd love that.  Needs to by 
10AM PST, the service is at 11AM.

--lm

The theme is Greg was a ninja, I'm only just realizing it.  
I've got lots of stories but they all involve me so if I'm taking up too
much time or boring people all I need to see is one person waving their
hand like "move it along" and I'll wrap it up.  I can wittle it down to
just two stories but here is the list.

Ninja Greg does music (have to do this one, I have pictures).
Ninja Greg bitch slaps the government with Larry
Ninja Greg takes Larry to the NSA, Larry ends up staring at pissed Marines
Ninja Greg gets Larry a wife
Happy Greg lifts a log (have to do this one, I have pictures)

Ninja Greg does music
---------------------

This is a funny story, I moved to the Santa Cruz mountains and my buddy
Bob took one look at my place, and the new tractor with a backhoe and
said "we're doing the pig roast at your place".  Bob did a pig roast
when he could, which was when one of his friends was doing landscaping
and they could dig a hole.  I've got 15 acres, a hole for the fire and
the pig was no problem.

It was mostly Bob's party at my place but I got my invites out, Greg
was on the list, and that got me thinking lets have some music.  I 
put it out there that we should have some music, I knew Greg was down,
Kennan plays guitar and he was down, and this guy named Andy said he
could do keyboards.  Cool, we have a band.

The guys show up, Greg sets up his drums, Kennan plugs into an amp,
and Andy sets up his keyboard.  Greg sounds great, duh, Kennan is
tuning up and sounds great, Andy has a keyboard.

They start playing and it is obvious that Andy is out of his league.
Greg is world class, Kennan doesn't suck.

So here is the first ninja move.  I don't remember what Greg said, I
asked my wife and all she could say was "he was so smooth".  Ninja Greg
said something like "can I show you something?" and slid in behind
the keyboard.  And things started sounding good.

My buddy Otis stepped up to play the drums, I just learned that that
was the first time he played with a group.  He wasn't great but he 
could hold a beat and it was fine.

Ninja Greg bitch slaps the government with Larry
------------------------------------------------

When I worked for Greg one of the big projects was a government thing
where they were imaging the earth.  This was roughly 1994 and on a clear
day they could resolve stuff from a satellite to 3 inches.  So a really
big newspaper headline they could read from space.

It was a big project, Cray was in it, DEC was in it, and SGI was in it.
SGI had the storage and data transfer part (more about the data transfer
later).

I was super into performance at that part of my life and Greg knew that.

I've always told this story as it was just me but looking back on it,
I see the hand of Ninja Greg.

I had done a pile of performance work, figured out that the disk drives
had a problem, made Seagate redesign their drive mounts.  Whatever,
that doesn't matter.  What matters is Greg was negotiating the deal,
SGI needed to get paid, and this is just me looking back on it but it
all makes sense, he sent me into a meeting.

I should mention that I was a super cocky engineer, I was at the top
of my game and I didn't really like the people that were working on
this contract, they seemed stupid to me.  I should also mention that
I loved to stake and at SGI there were lots of places to strap on some
rollerblades and go skate.

Somehow Greg sent me into this meeting.  As it so happened I was on
rollerblades and I was fresh off of figuring out the that the disk drives
had a problem.

I fly into the meeting, look at the presentation, say "that won't work"
and go grab a sandwich and was heading out and they say "why not" and
I go into a pile of actual data, factual data (they had nothing but
simulations) and it is super clear that I'm right and they are wrong.

I've always thought that meeting was all me but looking back on it,
I think Greg knew exactly what he had, he sent me in when he needed
to remind everyone that SGI had a clue, it was some Ninja moves.

Ninja Greg takes Larry to the NSA, Larry ends up staring at pissed Marines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the middle of that program to image the earth the government realized
that they liked me.  So they wanted me to get security clearance and Greg
said do it so I was going down that path.

Those of you who know me will laugh at the idea that I could keep my mouth
shut (I can but there has to be a really really good reason).  I went about
80% of the way through the process and realized this was all for them, there
was nothing in it for me, it was so they could tell me stuff and I could help
them but I'd have to shut my mouth.  For stupid reasons.

So I balked and the NSA put pressure on Greg to bring me around.  Greg knew
that I liked smart people, I'm so-so smart, I like being around people who
are a lot smarter than I am.  His way of getting me to complete the clearance
process was to take me to the NSA and introduce me to some scary smart people.

An aside: this was a long time ago, mid 1990's.  The NSA that I saw then is 
nothing like the NSA of today.  They used to have ethics, that seems to be
gone.

Anyhoo, we get out to Fort Meade and check in and Greg tells me "stay close,
they don't like it if you wander around".  Yeah, yeah, Greg, whatever.

We were walking down a hallway and I see something through a doorway and
go "that's cool" and I pause to take a look.  

I'm old so maybe I'm making this up, but my memory is that I had three guys
with rifles pointing at my face, and those guys were ninjas.  I never saw
them, they just kind of appeared and had me on the ground.

Too long, don't read: if Greg says stay close, stay close.

Ninja Greg gets Larry a wife
----------------------------

I did some work for SGI to move data around really fast.  I can't claim
any credit for this because people before me had done all the hard
work (page flippin and wire speed TCP on HIPPI).  Their work was 99%
of the effort, all I did was realize we can move data fast through the
file system and we can move data fast through network, how about I plug
these two big firehoses together and now we can move data fast through
the network file system.

What I did was very small but it was useful and SGI wanted to ship it.

So how did Greg get me a wife?  I have no idea if he intended this or not
but I was a hot commodity at that time and I had built something.  Greg 
could have found someone else to do the grunt work to move it out the 
door but he sent me to go see Beth.  Looking back on it now I really 
wonder if he saw something that Beth and I didn't.

Whatever, Beth shipped all software, I had to go meet her, had to go 
to the patch meeting where she said "Oh, good, Larry's here, we'll
talk about his thing" and I shot back "we're not talking about my
thing in this meeting".  Silly me, she did want to talk about that
and we ended up getting married and have two great kids.  If Greg
did that then go him.

Happy Greg lifts a log
----------------------

Greg and I talked after I left SGI, mostly about woodworking because we
were both into that.  But we didn't talk as much as we should have given
how close we were.

About a year ago Greg wanted to come up and chat.  He felt like he might
be beating the cancer that was the result of the treatment of the cancer
he had 22 years earlier, he was thinking about buying a place up in the
mountains like I did.  

He also wanted to geek out.  He and I have very similar views of the 
industry we are in, we are both very old school.  We sat around on my
back deck and talked geek stuff.  His mind was 100%, I wish I was that
sharp.

We also talked about his new cancer, he told me how he couldn't eat
anything because his throat was toast, he was super happy that the
docs let him eat tiny chunks of ice, but that was it.  Everything
else went into him through a hole, he more or less pumped baby food
into himself.  I watched him do it, he just shrugged and said you
do what ya gotta do.

I have a thing, I do this for anyone who is not 100% or doesn't feel
strong, I put them on my excavator.  I told Greg when he wanted to 
come up and chat, cool, but you have to drive excavator.

He sort of wound down and wanted to leave, 3 hours of geek talk will
do that, and I said you have to drive the excavator.  He was not 
thrilled but I got him on it.  It's like that game where you try and
pick up stuff and if you pick it up you get a prize.  Except the 
excavator wants you to win and the thing you pick up is a 1000 pound 
log.

I got him on it, he got frustrated, but then he got it.  I've got 
pictures and my all time favorite picture of Greg is that grin he
sported when he got the log.  That's Greg.  I love that grin.




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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29 22:25 Norman Wilson
@ 2015-06-30  3:37 ` Larry McVoy
  2015-07-02  3:30   ` Larry McVoy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2015-06-30  3:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


That's a cool idea.  If that happens I'll show up and blather on about
how much I loved Greg.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 06:25:47PM -0400, Norman Wilson wrote:
>   When I get back to a keyboard I thought maybe it would be nice to share
>   some Greg stories, I have enough of them.  So I'll try and do that.
> 
> If anyone wants to do that in person, USENIX ATC is next
> week and would be an appropriate venue.  Perhaps a Greg
> Chesson Memorial BOF?
> 
> Norman Wilson
> Toronto ON
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29 12:52   ` Larry McVoy
  2015-06-29 13:52     ` Larry McVoy
@ 2015-06-29 23:12     ` Dave Horsfall
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Dave Horsfall @ 2015-06-29 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Larry McVoy wrote:

> I put everyone who is sick on my excavator because it makes them feel 
> better:
> 
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/xtp+excavator/

For some reason, I am reminded of the hayride scene in "The Dish" (yes, 
they do a hayride from time to time).

See the film.

I've been to PKS, and took a few photos; their machine room has lots of 
computers labelled "Unix" :-)

Oh, they're over here somewhere: 

http://www.horsfall.org/The_Dish/

My favourite is http://www.horsfall.org/The_Dish/dscf0010.jpg .

Ah, here it is: http://www.horsfall.org/The_Dish/dscf0017.jpg .

-- 
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
@ 2015-06-29 22:25 Norman Wilson
  2015-06-30  3:37 ` Larry McVoy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Norman Wilson @ 2015-06-29 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)


  When I get back to a keyboard I thought maybe it would be nice to share
  some Greg stories, I have enough of them.  So I'll try and do that.

If anyone wants to do that in person, USENIX ATC is next
week and would be an appropriate venue.  Perhaps a Greg
Chesson Memorial BOF?

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON



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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29  7:30 Dave Horsfall
  2015-06-29 12:44 ` Clem Cole
@ 2015-06-29 17:03 ` Mary Ann Horton
  2015-07-03 18:17 ` asbesto
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Mary Ann Horton @ 2015-06-29 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)


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I'm so sorry to hear of Greg's passing.  I still have the "Reach Out  
And Grep Someone" bumper sticker he gave me on my cubicle at SDG&E.

   Mary Ann

Quoting Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org>:

> Haven't found any more info...
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
> http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's all...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:50:42 -0400
> From: Dave Farber
> To: ip <ip at listbox.com>
> Subject: [IP] Death of Greg Chesson
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Lauren Weinstein"
> Date: Jun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
> Subject: Death of Greg Chesson
> To: <dave at farber.net>
> Cc:
>
>
> Dave, fyi.
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/bRdbj1B1qQG
>
> --Lauren--
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29 12:52   ` Larry McVoy
@ 2015-06-29 13:52     ` Larry McVoy
  2015-06-29 23:12     ` Dave Horsfall
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2015-06-29 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)



I'm going to be AFK all day but a couple of things:

If anyone wants to come out for the funeral (once I figure out
when/where that is) I can offer up a place to stay.  Looking at you,
Clem, love to meet you in person and talk Masscomp.

When I get back to a keyboard I thought maybe it would be nice to share
some Greg stories, I have enough of them.  So I'll try and do that.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:52:38AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 07:44:58AM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
> > Greg had been sick for a while.   Sad loss.
> > Clem
> 
> Greg is/was a good friend of mine, was my mentor at SGI.  He came up to
> see me a while back, he was sharp as ever.
> 
> I put everyone who is sick on my excavator because it makes them feel
> better:
> 
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/xtp+excavator/
> 
> --lm
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29 12:44 ` Clem Cole
@ 2015-06-29 12:52   ` Larry McVoy
  2015-06-29 13:52     ` Larry McVoy
  2015-06-29 23:12     ` Dave Horsfall
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2015-06-29 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 07:44:58AM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
> Greg had been sick for a while.   Sad loss.
> Clem

Greg is/was a good friend of mine, was my mentor at SGI.  He came up to
see me a while back, he was sharp as ever.

I put everyone who is sick on my excavator because it makes them feel
better:

http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/xtp+excavator/

--lm



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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
  2015-06-29  7:30 Dave Horsfall
@ 2015-06-29 12:44 ` Clem Cole
  2015-06-29 12:52   ` Larry McVoy
  2015-06-29 17:03 ` Mary Ann Horton
  2015-07-03 18:17 ` asbesto
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Clem Cole @ 2015-06-29 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)


Greg had been sick for a while.   Sad loss.
Clem

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:

> Haven't found any more info...
>
> --
> Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
> http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's all...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:50:42 -0400
> From: Dave Farber
> To: ip <ip at listbox.com>
> Subject: [IP] Death of Greg Chesson
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Lauren Weinstein"
> Date: Jun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
> Subject: Death of Greg Chesson
> To: <dave at farber.net>
> Cc:
>
>
> Dave, fyi.
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/bRdbj1B1qQG
>
> --Lauren--
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* [TUHS] We've lost Greg Chesson
@ 2015-06-29  7:30 Dave Horsfall
  2015-06-29 12:44 ` Clem Cole
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From: Dave Horsfall @ 2015-06-29  7:30 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Haven't found any more info...

-- 
Dave Horsfall  (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer"
http://www.horsfall.org/  It's just a silly little web site, that's all...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:50:42 -0400
From: Dave Farber
To: ip <ip at listbox.com>
Subject: [IP] Death of Greg Chesson

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Lauren Weinstein"
Date: Jun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
Subject: Death of Greg Chesson
To: <dave at farber.net>
Cc:


Dave, fyi.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LaurenWeinstein/posts/bRdbj1B1qQG

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