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From: Earl Baugh <earl.baugh@gmail.com>
To: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>,
	Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] tabs vs spaces - entab, detab
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 23:10:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D2C36A-9503-42F1-80B2-BBB1D9638449@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210315234749.-J3mz%steffen@sdaoden.eu>

One of the times I was lucky enough to be able to hire and set up what I thought would be the place I’d want to work (  design and code ), at the beginning I did the best I could to solve the “religious” code issues, tool issues, etc. 

Code Formatting wise — we came up with a “checked-in-standard”.  All code went thru a code formatter when checking in.   When it came out, we build a couple templates that translated to formats for things that different folks wanted ( and gave folks the option of tweaking their own ).  They could use the default ( I did ).   Any thing was fair game, as long as it got checked in “in the checked in standard”.   We also came up with a set of rules for complexity, nesting.   The entire team actually was able to come to agreement — if your code didn’t violated the limit of minor or misc things ( critical and major things had to be addressed ) it was fine. We set a limit of 1000 for minor and I think 5000 for misc.    I was surprised how far from the standard stuff looked on various folks workstations but during code reviews we had a “common language format” we all could read without much fuss. 

We did go with a line length of <132 so if necessary we could print stuff out landscape.

Tool wise, if it got in the way more than 50% it was gone and we’d find a new one.   Preference was for every editor, etc. to have at least two users on the team. ( so you’d have someone to ask questions of ) And you could use an IDE as long as code had standard makefiles when checked in.  

Surprisingly this worked out quite well with a team of around 20...

Earl  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> wrote:
> 
> Bakul Shah wrote in
> <01BE1B3F-8745-4465-93EF-95AA83EFD494@iitbombay.org>:
> 
> Wonderful, i can re-answer in public, too, leaving something off.
> 
> --- Forwarded from Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> ---
> 
> Maybe because alternate processing rips myself off.  Sigh.
> 
>  ...
> |Oh. Hm. I heard this on American Forces
> |Network, told by Tony Scott, to which i listened from at least
> |Monday to Thursday 00am to 04am (German Time).  When such things
> |were still possible, and thus in the first days, maybe the day it
> |happened.  (Before "Max" was taken offline after Tony Scott issued
> |several "You can't say that on the radio", for sure.)
> 
> He surely did for years before that.  But i mean, hey, just an
> observation, i have no idea of american sensitivities.
> 
> |But thanks for the pointer.  Haven't we had this already in the
> |past?  The above sounds dark and ugly to my ears, hmmmm.
> 
> Yeah i mean, this arose by the beginning of the 90s, right.
> If the first examination does not reveal the desired result (but
> maybe the truth even, heh), then just perform a second .. a third
> one, until the result is absolutely what was wanted.  Gulf war
> illness, Barschel's death, W keys on the keyboard .. you name it.
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-16  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-04 16:52 Will Senn
2021-03-04 16:59 ` Clem Cole
2021-03-04 18:31   ` arnold
2021-03-04 19:23     ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-03-04 19:37       ` Steve Nickolas
2021-03-04 19:50         ` Rob Pike
2021-03-04 21:20           ` Robert Clausecker
2021-03-04 21:25           ` Will Senn
2021-03-05  9:58             ` John Gilmore
2021-03-06 21:31               ` Dave Horsfall
2021-03-06 21:38                 ` Larry McVoy
2021-03-06 22:05                   ` Clem Cole
2021-03-15  3:02                     ` John Cowan
2021-03-15 18:15                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-03-15 21:19                         ` Bakul Shah
2021-03-15 23:47                           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-03-16  3:10                             ` Earl Baugh [this message]
2021-03-15 21:08                       ` Dave Horsfall
2021-03-15 21:12                         ` Steve Nickolas
2021-03-15 21:24                           ` Dave Horsfall
2021-03-15 22:06                             ` Adam Thornton
2021-03-16 13:25                             ` arnold
2021-03-17  5:10                       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-06 21:40                 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-03-04 18:48   ` emanuel stiebler
2021-03-05  0:44     ` John Cowan
2021-03-05  0:55       ` Larry McVoy
2021-03-05  1:09         ` George Michaelson
2021-03-05  1:21           ` Larry McVoy
2021-03-05  1:29             ` Richard Salz
2021-03-04 18:33 ` John P. Linderman
2021-03-04 21:24 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-04 21:27   ` Will Senn
2021-03-04 21:29     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-04 21:42       ` Will Senn
2021-03-04 21:48       ` John P. Linderman
2021-03-04 22:08         ` Andy Kosela
2021-03-04 22:12           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-05 14:13             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-03-05 20:24               ` John Cowan
2021-03-05 21:51                 ` Bakul Shah
2021-03-06 23:43                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-03-05  0:15           ` Jon Steinhart
2021-03-06 21:22           ` Dave Horsfall
2021-03-06 23:58             ` Bakul Shah
2021-03-07  0:03               ` Jon Steinhart
2021-03-07  0:25               ` Steve Nickolas
2021-03-07  9:16               ` Brantley Coile
2021-03-05  9:50         ` [TUHS] tunefs -m 5% John Gilmore
2021-03-05 15:01           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-03-05 15:32           ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-03-06  1:18             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-06  1:52               ` Warner Losh
2021-03-06 21:45                 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-03-06 22:03                   ` Larry McVoy
2021-03-09  4:59                     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-06 23:52                   ` David Barto
2021-03-06  1:16           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2021-03-04 22:10     ` [TUHS] tabs vs spaces - entab, detab Greg A. Woods
2021-03-05  1:41 ` alan
2021-03-05  1:55 ` alan
2021-03-05  2:06   ` Will Senn
2021-03-05 17:08     ` Clem Cole
2021-03-05 17:19       ` Richard Salz
2021-03-05 19:39         ` Lawrence Stewart
2021-03-05 19:51           ` Dan Halbert
2021-03-08  1:52       ` Will Senn
2021-03-05 16:43 ` Scot Jenkins via TUHS
2021-03-05 22:23   ` Bakul Shah
2021-03-06 20:51 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-03-06 21:01   ` Jon Steinhart
2021-03-06 21:19     ` Larry McVoy
2021-03-06 22:01       ` Clem Cole
2021-03-05 16:44 M Douglas McIlroy
2021-03-05 19:29 ` Greg A. Woods
2021-03-06 23:21   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-03-05 22:50 Norman Wilson
2021-03-07  2:53 Nelson H. F. Beebe

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