From: Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] cat -v and other complaints
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 21:15:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <79E2CC9D-1BD5-41F2-A052-FC328E9C3B7E@ccc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69AFD606-5E1D-4060-95A5-22F33B2322B2@ccc.com>
And I should added I do miss inetd.conf in both cases.
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
> On Aug 29, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>
> Truth is I think IBM beat Sun on getting loadable modules for the kernel out first. But I was counting the versions that people really looked at which is why I give Linux credit.
>
> It makes sense they modeled on SunOS btw but the fact is the Linux version is what folks like *BSD and macOS modeled after later.
>
> Btw you are 100% right - As for launchd I agree/no doubt - but I’d already given up on MacOS being able to be admin’ed like a Unix box. I can pretty much use it via iterm2 as a user like one and if mostly works as I expect (which I do appreciate).
>
> Linux is seductive enough to make think I should be able to admin it like I have for the last 40 years and it then bites me when I least expect it.
>
> Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
>
>>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 08:34:05AM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Clem Cole wrote:
>>>> That said, I give the Linux folks great credit for the addition of modules
>>>> was huge and it took BSD and the other UNIX systems a few years really
>>>> pick up that idea in the same way (yes Solaris, Tru64 and eventually HPUX
>>>> etc.. had something too but again - my comment about being generally
>>>> available applies).
>>>
>>> Wasn't SunOS first with dynamic kernel modules, or is my memory worse than I
>>> thought? Linux may have been around at the time, but we never used in the
>>> shop until much later (Red Hat, nicknamed Dead Rat).
>>
>> Yep. And Linux has loadable modules because I posted the SunOS 4.x man
>> pages for the SunOS loadable modules to the kernel list. Proving once
>> again that the open source guys aren't always the greatest at coming up
>> with the ideas but once you show them that it can be done, it gets done
>> quickly. I think they had a prototype working in a week.
>>
>>> Never mind "systemd"; I'm having enough trouble coming to grips with
>>> "launchd" on the Mac... Gimme /etc/inetd.conf any time.
>>
>> Amen, brother.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-30 1:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-29 14:25 Clem Cole
2018-08-29 22:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 23:36 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 1:14 ` Clem cole
2018-08-30 1:15 ` Clem cole [this message]
2018-08-30 2:43 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-08-30 2:59 ` George Michaelson
2018-08-31 0:27 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 0:41 ` Dan Cross
2018-08-31 1:58 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-31 11:38 ` ron
2018-08-31 14:41 ` [TUHS] UNIX System names - since UNIX was a Trademark Clem Cole
2018-08-31 15:13 ` Eric Wayte
2018-08-31 15:17 ` William Pechter
2018-08-31 15:25 ` Clem Cole
2018-09-01 0:10 ` John P. Linderman
2018-09-01 0:18 ` ron
2018-09-01 0:55 ` Nemo
2018-09-01 7:37 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-01 13:54 ` Nemo
2018-09-01 17:03 ` Paul Winalski
2018-09-03 1:14 ` Robert Brockway
2018-09-30 20:57 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-01 16:26 ` Paul Winalski
2018-09-01 0:00 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 21:56 ` [TUHS] cat -v and other complaints Cág
2018-09-01 3:37 ` Andrew Warkentin
2018-09-03 18:04 ` Cág
2018-09-03 18:11 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-09-03 18:56 ` Cág
2018-09-04 6:10 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-04 6:41 ` ron minnich
2018-09-04 9:34 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-04 10:23 ` Dan Cross
2018-09-04 14:22 ` ron minnich
2018-09-06 20:02 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-06 20:49 ` ron minnich
2018-09-06 21:55 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-07 1:59 ` Dan Cross
2018-09-07 4:40 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-30 21:32 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-09-03 20:08 ` Bakul Shah
2018-09-03 20:41 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-09-03 21:46 ` Bakul Shah
2018-09-04 0:52 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-09-06 20:29 Norman Wilson
2018-09-06 22:16 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-08 12:02 [TUHS] [TUHS} " Doug McIlroy
2018-09-08 13:36 ` Will Senn
2018-09-08 14:22 ` [TUHS] " Ralph Corderoy
2018-09-08 16:10 ` Arthur Krewat
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