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* [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat)
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@ 2017-02-09 21:13 ` Johnny Billquist
  2017-02-09 23:03   ` Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Johnny Billquist @ 2017-02-09 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 2017-02-09 20:55, corey at lod.com (Corey Lindsly) wrote:

>
>> In spite of that, I'm typing away to you all, I'm 3ms away from 8.8.8.8
>> (Google's dns server).  Go wireless.  It's pretty remarkable to be here
>> and have decent net connectivity.
>>
>> I do not yearn for the days of SLIP.
>> --
>> ---
>> Larry McVoy            	     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
> 3ms? Really? I'm impressed, and I'd like to see your traceroute. We peer
> directly with Google and I get 4-5ms. Do share.

Meh. From Uppsala in Sweden I seem to have about 2ms ping time to 8.8.8.8...

Psilocybe:update/bqt> ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=2.10 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=2 ttl=56 time=1.93 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=3 ttl=56 time=2.05 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=4 ttl=56 time=1.89 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=5 ttl=56 time=2.02 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=6 ttl=56 time=2.05 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=7 ttl=56 time=2.00 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=8 ttl=56 time=1.97 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=9 ttl=56 time=2.03 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=10 ttl=56 time=2.10 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9011ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.894/2.020/2.108/0.067 ms
Psilocybe:update/bqt> traceroute 8.8.8.8
traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  r1.n.it.uu.se (130.238.19.254)  1.986 ms  2.324 ms  2.717 ms
  2  l-uu-1-b1.uu.se (130.238.6.251)  0.288 ms  0.680 ms  0.646 ms
  3  uu-r1.sunet.se (130.242.6.148)  0.686 ms  0.685 ms  0.673 ms
  4  uppsala-upa-r1.sunet.se (130.242.4.138)  0.672 ms  0.661 ms  0.657 ms
  5  stockholm-fre-r1.sunet.se (130.242.4.26)  3.503 ms  3.468 ms  3.483 ms
  6  se-fre.nordu.net (109.105.102.9)  24.456 ms  24.532 ms  24.153 ms
  7  se-kst2.nordu.net (109.105.97.27)  1.934 ms  1.902 ms  1.891 ms
  8  as15169-te-tc1.sthix.net (192.121.80.47)  2.204 ms  2.189 ms 
72.14.196.42 (72.14.196.42)  1.872 ms
  9  216.239.40.29 (216.239.40.29)  1.862 ms  1.941 ms 216.239.40.27 
(216.239.40.27)  1.995 ms
10  209.85.251.233 (209.85.251.233)  2.398 ms 209.85.245.61 
(209.85.245.61)  2.778 ms 72.14.234.85 (72.14.234.85)  2.385 ms
11  google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8)  2.372 ms  2.366 ms  2.337 ms

	Johnny

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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* [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat)
  2017-02-09 21:13 ` [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat) Johnny Billquist
@ 2017-02-09 23:03   ` Joerg Schilling
  2017-02-09 23:09     ` [TUHS] Ping times Johnny Billquist
  2017-02-10  2:07     ` [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat) Jason Stevens
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2017-02-09 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:

> Meh. From Uppsala in Sweden I seem to have about 2ms ping time to 8.8.8.8...
>
> Psilocybe:update/bqt> ping 8.8.8.8
> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=2.10 ms

You seem to live in a location where the light speed is higher than usual ;-)

1ms = 300 km in my area.

Berlin <-> SF is aprox. 9100 km

Jörg

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* [TUHS] Ping times
  2017-02-09 23:03   ` Joerg Schilling
@ 2017-02-09 23:09     ` Johnny Billquist
  2017-02-10  2:07     ` [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat) Jason Stevens
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Johnny Billquist @ 2017-02-09 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 2017-02-10 00:03, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
>
>> Meh. From Uppsala in Sweden I seem to have about 2ms ping time to 8.8.8.8...
>>
>> Psilocybe:update/bqt> ping 8.8.8.8
>> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
>> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=2.10 ms
>
> You seem to live in a location where the light speed is higher than usual ;-)
>
> 1ms = 300 km in my area.
>
> Berlin <-> SF is aprox. 9100 km

:-)
Well, it should be obvious that Google is not serving everything from 
SF. In fact, pretty much nothing is served from there... They have many 
datacenters, and they also want their egress traffic to come out as 
close as possible to the destination. My traceroute was still 11 hops, 
but nowhere near SF...

	Johnny

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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* [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat)
  2017-02-09 23:03   ` Joerg Schilling
  2017-02-09 23:09     ` [TUHS] Ping times Johnny Billquist
@ 2017-02-10  2:07     ` Jason Stevens
  2017-02-10  4:15       ` Corey Lindsly
  2017-02-10  8:05       ` [TUHS] Ping times Johnny Billquist
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jason Stevens @ 2017-02-10  2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)


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8.8.8.8 is a multicast.  Google has these servers all over the world so it's no surprise that everyone has good timing to them....

Try 4.2.2.2 or 4.2.2.4 for some old easy to remember DNS servers

On February 10, 2017 7:03:59 AM GMT+08:00, Joerg Schilling <schily at schily.net> wrote:
>Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
>
>> Meh. From Uppsala in Sweden I seem to have about 2ms ping time to
>8.8.8.8...
>>
>> Psilocybe:update/bqt> ping 8.8.8.8
>> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
>> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=2.10 ms
>
>You seem to live in a location where the light speed is higher than
>usual ;-)
>
>1ms = 300 km in my area.
>
>Berlin <-> SF is aprox. 9100 km
>
>Jörg
>
>-- 
>EMail:joerg at schily.net                  (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353
>Berlin
>joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog:
>http://schily.blogspot.com/
>URL:  http://cdrecord.org/private/
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/

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* [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat)
  2017-02-10  2:07     ` [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat) Jason Stevens
@ 2017-02-10  4:15       ` Corey Lindsly
  2017-02-10  8:05       ` [TUHS] Ping times Johnny Billquist
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From: Corey Lindsly @ 2017-02-10  4:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


> 8.8.8.8 is a multicast. Google has these servers all over the world so 
> it's no surprise that everyone has good timing to them....

Well, technically it's anycast, which is conceptually similar to 
multicast but a distinct routing protocol. Anycast is one-to-nearest while 
multicast is one-to-many (selected).

--corey


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* [TUHS] Ping times
  2017-02-10  2:07     ` [TUHS] Ping times (was: Code bloat) Jason Stevens
  2017-02-10  4:15       ` Corey Lindsly
@ 2017-02-10  8:05       ` Johnny Billquist
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Johnny Billquist @ 2017-02-10  8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


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On 2017-02-10 03:07, Jason Stevens wrote:
> 8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> is a multicast. Google has these servers all
> over the world so it's no surprise that everyone has good timing to them....

It's not a multicast in the traditional sense. But it is hosted in many 
locations, yes.

	Johnny

> Try 4.2.2.2 <http://4.2.2.2> or 4.2.2.4 <http://4.2.2.4> for some old
> easy to remember DNS servers
>
> On February 10, 2017 7:03:59 AM GMT+08:00, Joerg Schilling
> <schily at schily.net> wrote:
>
>     Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
>
>         Meh. From Uppsala in Sweden I seem to have about 2ms ping time
>         to 8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8>...
>
>         Psilocybe:update/bqt> ping 8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8>
>         PING 8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> (8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8>) 56(84)
>         bytes of data.
>         64 bytes from 8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8>: icmp_req=1 ttl=56
>         time=2.10 ms
>
>
>     You seem to live in a location where the light speed is higher than usual ;-)
>
>     1ms = 300 km in my area.
>
>     Berlin <-> SF is aprox. 9100 km
>
>     Jörg
>
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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