[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Mario Premke]

Thanks a lot !!!
That was what I was looking for ...
Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @ 
After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a
different name ?
Thanks in advance
Mario Premke

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> Von: Bill Gunshannon <bill at cs.scranton.edu>
> An: Mario Premke <Mario.Premke at epost.de>
> Cc: Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net>; pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Betreff: Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> Datum: Samstag, 16. November 2002 23:34
> 
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote:
> 
> > Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
> > I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
> > 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
> >
> > <--- SNIP --->
> >
> > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
> > ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
> >
> 
> Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com
> 
> bill
> 
> -- 
> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three
wolves
> bill at cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
> University of Scranton   |
> Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[M E Leypold @ labnet]

Mario Premke writes:
 > Thanks a lot !!!
 > That was what I was looking for ...
 > Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @ 
 > After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a
 > different name ?
 > Thanks in advance
 > Mario Premke

rlunix?



Regards -- Markus

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Peter Turnbull]

On Nov 17, 21:09, M E Leypold wrote:
>
> Mario Premke writes:
>  > Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt
@
>  > After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have
a
>  > different name ?
>  > Thanks in advance
>  > Mario Premke
>
> rlunix?

It should look something like this (from my 7th Editon on a real PDP-11):

@boot
boot
: rl(0,0)unix

The "@" is the bootstrap prompt, and the first "boot" is what you type.
 The second "boot" is from the boot program itself; the colon ":" is boot's
prompt.  "rl(0,0)" is what you type to name the device, unit, and
partition, and "unix" is the kernel name.  YMMV if you have a different
kernel.  BTW, to shut down an old system like this, you should (as root)
type

# kill -1 1

to stop user processes and return to single-user mode; then type "sync" a
couple of times, to make sure any disk buffers are written out, and then
stop the processor.

-- 
Pete						Peter Turnbull
						Network Manager
						University of York

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Frank Wortner]

on 11/17/02 1:24 PM, Mario Premke at Mario.Premke at epost.de wrote:

> Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt @
> After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have a
> different name ?

boot dl0
@boot       <- you type "boot" and press "enter" or "return" in reply
New Boot, known device are hp ht rk rl rp tm vt
: rl(0,0)rl2unix    <- you type "rl(0,0)rl2unix" and press return
mem = 177856
#           <- you are now in "single user" mode
            <- press "control-d" to go to multiuser mode
            <- (the normal mode of operation)
Restricted rights: Use, duplication, or disclosure
is subject to restrictions stated in your contract with
Western Electric Company, Inc.
Thu Sept 22 06:26:09 EDT 1988

login: root     <- login as "root"
#           <- Have fun ...
            <- You did make a backup of the disk image before you started,
            <-  right?  ;-)

If you want to make things easier,  your first command should be:

# cp /rl2unix /unix

Now you will be able to type "rl(0,0)unix" instead of "rl(0,0)rl2unix".  Ps
and other commands that need to read the system namelist also expect the
kernel image to be named /unix.

Enjoy!



-- 
Frank

"Plez cnoke if an rnsr is not reqid."
Sign on Owl's Door, "Winnie the Pooh"

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Mario Premke]

Thanks a lot - it works ... I am delighted !!!

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> Von: Frank Wortner <frank at wortner.com>
> An: Mario Premke <Mario.Premke at epost.de>; pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Betreff: Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> Datum: Montag, 18. November 2002 03:59
> 
> on 11/17/02 1:24 PM, Mario Premke at Mario.Premke at epost.de wrote:
> 
> > Nevertheless, mounting the file and boot dl0: leads to the boot-prompt
@
> > After typing unix the boot-prompt appears again - does the kernel have
a
> > different name ?
> 
> boot dl0
> @boot       <- you type "boot" and press "enter" or "return" in reply
> New Boot, known device are hp ht rk rl rp tm vt
> : rl(0,0)rl2unix    <- you type "rl(0,0)rl2unix" and press return
> mem = 177856
> #           <- you are now in "single user" mode
>             <- press "control-d" to go to multiuser mode
>             <- (the normal mode of operation)
> Restricted rights: Use, duplication, or disclosure
> is subject to restrictions stated in your contract with
> Western Electric Company, Inc.
> Thu Sept 22 06:26:09 EDT 1988
> 
> login: root     <- login as "root"
> #           <- Have fun ...
>             <- You did make a backup of the disk image before you
started,
>             <-  right?  ;-)
> 
> If you want to make things easier,  your first command should be:
> 
> # cp /rl2unix /unix
> 
> Now you will be able to type "rl(0,0)unix" instead of "rl(0,0)rl2unix". 
Ps
> and other commands that need to read the system namelist also expect the
> kernel image to be named /unix.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Frank
> 
> "Plez cnoke if an rnsr is not reqid."
> Sign on Owl's Door, "Winnie the Pooh"
> 
> 
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> PUPS mailing list
> PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org
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[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Gregg C Levine]

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Hello from Gregg C Levine
No need to copy me on the address list, Bill. I caught Mario's message
the first go round, and decided to ask what methods he used to follow
this line of reasoning. It happens I sort of figured that he would have
used google to find things. Google is famous for outdated links.
-------------------
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net
------------------------------------------------------------
"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
(This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi )
(This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Gunshannon [mailto:bill at cs.scranton.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:35 PM
> To: Mario Premke
> Cc: Gregg C Levine; pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> 
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote:
> 
> > Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
> > I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on
the
> > 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
> >
> > <--- SNIP --->
> >
> > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
> > ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
> >
> 
> Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com
> 
> bill
> 
> --
> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three
wolves
> bill at cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
> University of Scranton   |
> Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Bill Gunshannon]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Mario Premke wrote:

> Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
> I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
> 'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:
>
> <--- SNIP --->
>
> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
> ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/
>

Try http://simh.trailing-edge.com

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
bill at cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Mario Premke]

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Hello Gregg, thanks for your immediate response !
I recently found the article 'Booting 7th Edition UNIX Images' on the
'vmsnet.pdp-11'-Newsgroups:

<--- SNIP --->

ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/sources/
ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/pub/PDP-11-sims/Supnik_2.2d/sources/

Once you get it, you have to compile the simulator. You also need to fetch
the 7th Edition UNIX disk images as well; they are available from the above
ftp sites in the software directory (i.e replace sources with software.
Unpack
the 7th Edition tarball in the same directory as the one you built the
simulator. The only file you require is disks/unix_v7_rl.dsk

<--- SNIP --->

What I wanted to say is that the above ftp-links are dead. You are right, I
should
look for the compressed tarball, but I don't know how the tarball is called
and
looking for 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' on google only leads to other dead links ... 
Any hints ?
Mario Premke

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> Von: Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net>
> An: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Betreff: RE: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> Datum: Samstag, 16. November 2002 14:50
> 
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk'
> image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file
> that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different
> UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For
> SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the
> compressed file works.
> -------------------
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi )
> (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pups-admin at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin at minnie.tuhs.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mario Premke
> > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> > Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> > 
> > Hello,
> > I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk
> image
> > on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
> > The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ...
> :-(
> > Are there any other sites where I can download this binary
> distribution ??
> > 
> > BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix
> archive
> > .. is it possible to boot
> > them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
> > I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup
> discussion),
> > because I heavily lack
> > PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
> > variations I made of it all
> > end up in a blank emulator screen ...
> > 
> > Any ideas will be appreciated
> > 
> > Mario Premke
> > 
> > ;                                       Set up some terminal devices
> > assign tt0: f1
> > assign tt1: f2
> > set scroll hard
> > ;                                       Make the CPU like an 11/45
> > set cpu dspace
> > set cpu dualregset
> > set cpu mmtraps
> > set cpu pirq
> > set cpu spl
> > set cpu supmode
> > set cpu cpuerr
> > set cpu csm
> > set cpu tstset
> > ;                                       Get rid of unneeded device
> delays
> > set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
> > set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
> > ;                                       Mount the RL02 disk image
> > mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
> > ;                                       and boot
> > boot dl0:
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > PUPS mailing list
> > PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org
> > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups
> 
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[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Gregg C Levine]

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Hello from Gregg C Levine
How do you mean by that? " The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk'
image I found are dead ... :-(" You said. How so? As I recall, that file
that's in there, for unix_v7_rl.dsk" is there, it's a totally different
UNIX_v7 file name, you need to call it that for the E11 product. For
SIMH, the full name as rendered by the extraction process from the
compressed file works.
-------------------
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net
------------------------------------------------------------
"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
(This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi )
(This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )



> -----Original Message-----
> From: pups-admin at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin at minnie.tuhs.org]
On
> Behalf Of Mario Premke
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: [pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7
> 
> Hello,
> I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk
image
> on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
> The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ...
:-(
> Are there any other sites where I can download this binary
distribution ??
> 
> BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix
archive
> .. is it possible to boot
> them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
> I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup
discussion),
> because I heavily lack
> PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
> variations I made of it all
> end up in a blank emulator screen ...
> 
> Any ideas will be appreciated
> 
> Mario Premke
> 
> ;                                       Set up some terminal devices
> assign tt0: f1
> assign tt1: f2
> set scroll hard
> ;                                       Make the CPU like an 11/45
> set cpu dspace
> set cpu dualregset
> set cpu mmtraps
> set cpu pirq
> set cpu spl
> set cpu supmode
> set cpu cpuerr
> set cpu csm
> set cpu tstset
> ;                                       Get rid of unneeded device
delays
> set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
> set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
> ;                                       Mount the RL02 disk image
> mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
> ;                                       and boot
> boot dl0:
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PUPS mailing list
> PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org
> http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Mario Premke]

Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??

BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
.. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...

Any ideas will be appreciated

Mario Premke

;                                       Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
;                                       Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
;                                       Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
;                                       Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
;                                       and boot
boot dl0:

[pups] Looking for binary distribution of v7

[Mario Premke]

Hello,
I just read the instructions of how to boot a binary version 7 disk image
on a ersatz11 pdp11 emulator.
The links pointing to the 'unix_v7_rl.dsk' image I found are dead ... :-(
Are there any other sites where I can download this binary distribution ??

BTW their are disk dumps of version 7 in the Caldera ancient unix archive
. is it possible to boot
them on ersatz11 as well ? I tried it a few times without success ...
I simply tried it with the following e11.ini (from a newsgroup discussion),
because I heavily lack
PDP 11 hardware knowledge. Nevertheless trying this ini-file and many
variations I made of it all
end up in a blank emulator screen ...

Any ideas will be appreciated

Mario Premke

(Please, send a return mail to my E-Mail address, since I am not on the
list ..)

;                                       Set up some terminal devices
assign tt0: f1
assign tt1: f2
set scroll hard
;                                       Make the CPU like an 11/45
set cpu dspace
set cpu dualregset
set cpu mmtraps
set cpu pirq
set cpu spl
set cpu supmode
set cpu cpuerr
set cpu csm
set cpu tstset
;                                       Get rid of unneeded device delays
set delay dl11 0=0 1=0
set delay rl11 0=0 1=0 2=0 3=0 4=0 5=0 6=0 7=0
;                                       Mount the RL02 disk image
mount dl0: v7_rl.dsk
;                                       and boot
boot dl0: