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From: paul.winalski@gmail.com (Paul Winalski)
Subject: [TUHS] Why did PDPs become so popular?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 18:44:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABH=_VSCoMv9S5uK8YaN00u=cViNajKTcQ+TSSgR6XZS49VtwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.1712280928320.64029@aneurin.horsfall.org>

On 12/27/17, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2017, Dave Ritchie via TUHS wrote:
>
>> I think that steep educational discounts and equipment grants from
>> Digital to major collages also had a major impact, as did the existence
>> of DECUS that made a lot of software readily available.
>
> IBM practically gave away their kit to educational institutions too (and
> made their money from the maintenance); there was no way that the
> University of NSW e.g. could've afforded their 360/50 otherwise,

That may have been true in the 1960s, but by the mid-1970s IBM
System/360/370 was no longer competitive in the educational market.
Circa 1973, Boston College--a true Blue IBM shop with a
System/370-145--wanted to provide time-sharing services to the student
body.  For less than the cost to upgrade the model 145 to a 158, they
bought a PDP-11/70 and ran RSTS on it.  Similarly Holy Cross (my alma
mater) had outgrown their System/370-125 by 1976.  For the price of an
upgrade to a model 135, they could by a complete VAX-11/780 system for
academic use and retain the S/370-125 exclusively for college admin
purposes.  The 11/780 was equivalent in compute power and memory
capacity to a S/370-158, but for about 1/4 the cost.

-Paul W.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-27 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <109152082.5216233.1514413535270.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-12-27 22:25 ` Dave Ritchie
2017-12-27 22:32   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-12-27 23:44     ` Paul Winalski [this message]
2017-12-27 23:38   ` Kevin Bowling
2017-12-28  0:07     ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-28  0:45       ` Kevin Bowling
2017-12-28  1:39       ` Ron Natalie
2017-12-31  5:20 Rudi Blom
2017-12-31 12:56 ` Clement T. Cole
2017-12-31 15:03   ` Steve Simon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-12-29 16:38 Larry McVoy
2017-12-29 23:54 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-12-30  0:04   ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-30  0:54   ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-12-30  1:47     ` Kevin Bowling
2017-12-30  2:19       ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-12-30  2:35         ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-30  2:20       ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-31  2:47     ` Henry Bent
2017-12-30  1:07   ` Ron Natalie
2017-12-30  2:30     ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-31  3:00       ` Henry Bent
2017-12-31  9:59         ` Arrigo Triulzi
2017-12-31 15:55         ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-28 14:05 Noel Chiappa
2017-12-28 15:59 ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-28 16:08   ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-28 23:28     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-29 11:04       ` Kevin Bowling
2017-12-29 23:35         ` Jon Forrest
2017-12-29 23:58           ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-27 21:02 Alec Muffett
2017-12-27 21:50 ` Grant Taylor
2017-12-28  1:23   ` Alec Muffett
2017-12-27 21:51 ` Clem Cole
2017-12-27 21:52   ` Clem Cole
2017-12-28  2:14   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey

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