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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Disassemblers
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 18:55:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2O5hXaC0kmDq12T2bmzAi4mg-X0_CkKpVva9W52xTFmgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdPgxTGrehsiJVXVyD19QOXRZrgbYhAx47Ebko4PNHYMuo+Q@mail.gmail.com>

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Ah -- if it was adb you redid, no doubt of its power.  I used adb for a
long time -- PDP-11/VAX/68K but as you said, you could learn a lot about
your system.   FWIW:  we embedded adb into RTU, calling it kdb.   We didn't
have no fancy VMs to run the system under, when it halted, it halted.   On
a personal machine that was not a problem and adb/kdb was very cool.

Clem

On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 5:50 PM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:

> Although upon reflection, I think what I did was fix 'adb' and call it
> 'db'. Haven't had my coffee yet this morning.
>
> -rob
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 7:49 AM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For v8 or thereabouts, I spent some time fixing some fundamental bugs in
>> db and found that it was arcane but remarkably powerful. Since it was lower
>> level, it avoided the endemic debugging problem of misleading you about
>> your program: All it could do was tell you what the machine was doing.
>> (Cdb, sdb, and adb were, at least in my experience, always lying to you.) I
>> may be the only person who appreciated db fully. Once the bugs were gone
>> you really could use it to good effect, as long as you understood the CPU.
>>
>> But it was buggy and arcane, no question about that.
>>
>> -rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 6:46 AM Richard Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember compiling and playing Langston's "empire" that I was told
>>> came from a decompiled executable. This was in the 4.2 days.
>>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-19 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-19 15:04 Henry Bent
2021-06-19 15:54 ` Clem Cole
2021-06-19 16:33   ` Henry Bent
2021-06-19 16:59     ` Clem Cole
2021-06-19 20:44       ` Richard Salz
2021-06-19 21:49         ` Rob Pike
2021-06-19 21:50           ` Rob Pike
2021-06-19 22:55             ` Clem Cole [this message]
2021-06-19 23:14               ` Larry McVoy
2021-06-20  1:41             ` Brantley Coile
2021-07-02  1:36       ` scj
2021-07-02 16:56         ` Paul Winalski
2021-07-02 17:45           ` Paul Winalski
2021-07-02 18:07           ` John P. Linderman
2021-06-19 17:57 Noel Chiappa
2021-06-19 18:40 ` Clem Cole
2021-06-20  1:15 Norman Wilson

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