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From: Stuart Remphrey <stu@remphrey.net>
To: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 20:36:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD0_1c=BUoUxY=8rYHOhAYHv6bUNsh-Fo87GTzLd0JT2e9ou7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2202170908540.45073@aneurin.horsfall.org>

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Sad news. Had read her papers in BSTJ early in my career. Very interesting
to read of her career, and thanks for the links.

I'm a daily/weekly "dc" guy (RPN ftw).
Never got into bc. Occasionally used eqn et al.

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> Wicat 150WS 27.3 sec
> Unison 32.6 sec
Unison must have been real slow!

Dave H. -- remember LSC's ads/posters:
    "WICAT with *new* GLTC Technology"
Lionel/someone just made up the term.
For a while no-one asked, eventually it was revealed to stand for "Goes
Like The Clappers". ("A Wet Week" more like it)

Fortunately I supported the Unix stuff from LSC Brisbane/Qld. So in my
first UNIX job I got to play with Sun2-Sun4, lots'a Pyramids, one Convex.
Don't recall LSC's Gould though; before I joined?

When our sales reps sold WICAT (68000 or 68020?) it was mostly running PICK
ported by a bloke in our office (another Dave? I recall him destroying a
phone in frustration over the UART/terminal driver). Weird O/S: efficient
on-disk hashed DB; but very prone to corruption on unclean shutdown.

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022, 06:30 Dave Horsfall, <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022, Leah Neukirchen wrote:
>
> > Apparently it was a popular benchmark back in the day:
> > https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/AUUGN/AUUGN-V05.1.pdf
>
> Yep.
>
> > > The benchmark was "echo 99k2vp8opq I /bin/time dc > /dev/null’. It
> > > uses dc (the desk calculator) to calculate the square root of 2 to 99
> > > decimal places,
>
> Ugh; that "I" ought to be "|" (and I can see other typos), so someone
> really needs to proofread those PDF scans if they're going to be regarded
> as authoritative.  Yes, I can help...
>
> > > This benchmark has been applied to a large number of machines° It has
> > > (up until now) been useful because most manufacturers have not
> > > optimised dc, so the results are not likely to have been distorted by
> > > attempts to optimise for benchmarks.
>
> Indeed, when a lot of compilers recognised the Sieve of Eratosthenes being
> used and optimised for it...  Wasn't all that long ago that vehicle
> manufacturers also started doing the same thing :-)
>
> > > Wicat 150WS 27.3 sec
> > > Unison 32.6 sec
>
> The WICAT 150 was just a terminal with several serial ports, and was
> p*ss-awful (I worked for Lionel Singer, and had to support the poxy
> thing); I'm surprised that it beat another box, though...
>
> > I looks like V7 dc used 100-limbs internally, so printing in decimal was
> > fast, but printing in octal required conversion.
>
> Yep; extra work for the CPU.  Not much of a benchmark these days, as CPUs
> are really fast; when I was supporting Unify I used to use its automatic
> tutorial as a benchmark, and I used to joke that I needed a calendar on
> some boxes...
>
> Trivia: Lionel Singer also sold the then-new Sun-3, and we had one set up
> at an AUUG conference, giggling whenever someone tried that benchmark;
> what they didn't know was that the prominent window was actually an
> "rlogin" to the Gould that we also sold...  The looks on their faces were
> priceless :-)
>
> -- Dave

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-17 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-15 22:31 Douglas McIlroy
2022-02-15 23:32 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-15 23:43   ` Jim Capp
2022-02-15 23:51     ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-16  0:54       ` Will Senn
2022-02-16  2:58         ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-16  0:09 ` George Michaelson
2022-02-16  0:24   ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-16  7:54     ` arnold
2022-02-16  8:13       ` markus schnalke
2022-02-16 14:54         ` Leah Neukirchen
2022-02-16 22:27           ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-16 22:40             ` Andrew Diller
2022-02-17 10:14               ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2022-02-17 15:50                 ` Adam Thornton
2022-02-17 20:23                   ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-17 10:24               ` Andy Kosela
2022-02-17 16:05                 ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-17 16:38                   ` Warner Losh
2022-02-16 22:42             ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-16 22:56               ` Clem Cole
2022-02-16 23:49                 ` Paul Winalski
2022-02-16 23:49               ` [TUHS] Benchmarks Bakul Shah
2022-02-17  1:02                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-17 12:36             ` Stuart Remphrey [this message]
2022-02-17 19:59           ` [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-02-17 21:18             ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-17 21:44               ` Bakul Shah
2022-02-18  8:33                 ` Otto Moerbeek
2022-02-22 10:39                   ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-22 15:53                     ` Otto Moerbeek
2022-02-20 17:29                 ` Derek Fawcus
2022-02-17 22:00               ` David Arnold
2022-02-18  9:58               ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-02-16 14:34     ` [TUHS] dc after bc Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-16 19:08   ` [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry Diomidis Spinellis
2022-02-16 20:55     ` John P. Linderman
2022-02-16 21:17       ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-16 21:59       ` Marshall Conover
2022-02-17  5:51     ` arnold
2022-02-17 22:09     ` Will Senn
2022-02-16  0:35 ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-16  8:02 ` Thomas Paulsen
2022-02-16 14:05 ` [TUHS] Shower of Dogs Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-16 14:09   ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-16 15:01     ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-16 16:57     ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-02-16 17:03     ` Dennis Boone
2022-02-16 17:18       ` Warner Losh
2022-02-16 14:09   ` Chet Ramey
2022-02-16 14:35     ` Ron Natalie
2022-02-16 14:41     ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-16 15:08   ` Rich Morin
2022-02-16 21:21     ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-16 21:25       ` John Cowan
2022-02-17  3:31         ` Chet Ramey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-22  0:02 [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry Brian Walden
2022-03-01 21:51 ` Terry Jones
2022-02-18  3:18 Norman Wilson
2022-02-18  9:10 ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2022-02-15 21:17 John P. Linderman
2022-02-15 21:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-15 21:33 ` Jeffrey Joshua Rollin

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