From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:42:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220216224254.GA3040@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2202170908540.45073@aneurin.horsfall.org>
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:27:39AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Indeed, when a lot of compilers recognised the Sieve of Eratosthenes being
> used and optimised for it... Wasn't all that long ago that vehicle
> manufacturers also started doing the same thing :-)
Indeed. I hated when people cheated because benchmarks should teach you
the capabilities of the machine being benchmarked. They aren't useful
if people cheat.
When I did LMbench, the rules were "cc -O2" and you could not link with
any benchmarking libraries and you could only report a result if you
reported all results.
I had a beef with this guy: https://www.cs.jhu.edu/~shap/ because he
had some toy OS that didn't have a VM system, didn't have networking,
didn't have much of anything, but boy oh boy, did it context switch
fast (because there was no context to speak of). He reported those
numbers in blatant violation of my rules and I had to escalate to
get him to stop. The bummer is he is a smart guy, capable of good
work, there is no need to cheat.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-16 22:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-15 22:31 Douglas McIlroy
2022-02-15 23:32 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-15 23:43 ` Jim Capp
2022-02-15 23:51 ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-16 0:54 ` Will Senn
2022-02-16 2:58 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-16 0:09 ` George Michaelson
2022-02-16 0:24 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-16 7:54 ` arnold
2022-02-16 8:13 ` markus schnalke
2022-02-16 14:54 ` Leah Neukirchen
2022-02-16 22:27 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-16 22:40 ` Andrew Diller
2022-02-17 10:14 ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2022-02-17 15:50 ` Adam Thornton
2022-02-17 20:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-17 10:24 ` Andy Kosela
2022-02-17 16:05 ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-17 16:38 ` Warner Losh
2022-02-16 22:42 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2022-02-16 22:56 ` Clem Cole
2022-02-16 23:49 ` Paul Winalski
2022-02-16 23:49 ` [TUHS] Benchmarks Bakul Shah
2022-02-17 1:02 ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-17 12:36 ` [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry Stuart Remphrey
2022-02-17 19:59 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-02-17 21:18 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-17 21:44 ` Bakul Shah
2022-02-18 8:33 ` Otto Moerbeek
2022-02-22 10:39 ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-22 15:53 ` Otto Moerbeek
2022-02-20 17:29 ` Derek Fawcus
2022-02-17 22:00 ` David Arnold
2022-02-18 9:58 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-02-16 14:34 ` [TUHS] dc after bc Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-16 19:08 ` [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry Diomidis Spinellis
2022-02-16 20:55 ` John P. Linderman
2022-02-16 21:17 ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-16 21:59 ` Marshall Conover
2022-02-17 5:51 ` arnold
2022-02-17 22:09 ` Will Senn
2022-02-16 0:35 ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-16 8:02 ` Thomas Paulsen
2022-02-16 14:05 ` [TUHS] Shower of Dogs Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-16 14:09 ` Andrew Hume
2022-02-16 15:01 ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-16 16:57 ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-02-16 17:03 ` Dennis Boone
2022-02-16 17:18 ` Warner Losh
2022-02-16 14:09 ` Chet Ramey
2022-02-16 14:35 ` Ron Natalie
2022-02-16 14:41 ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-02-16 15:08 ` Rich Morin
2022-02-16 21:21 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-16 21:25 ` John Cowan
2022-02-17 3:31 ` Chet Ramey
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-22 0:02 [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry Brian Walden
2022-03-01 21:51 ` Terry Jones
2022-02-18 3:18 Norman Wilson
2022-02-18 9:10 ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2022-02-15 21:17 John P. Linderman
2022-02-15 21:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-02-15 21:33 ` Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
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