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From: alec.muffett@gmail.com (Alec Muffett)
Subject: [TUHS] Non-US Unix Activities
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 23:01:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFWeb9KmUg5ExhHvpuicRyMWS1ZJ-2sJMFs3sLa41tny4_5bZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2eefb902-e1b9-d56a-f116-4ea57cb03c67@telegraphics.com.au>

Before we get all complicated, I will go ask some people if they have the
source.  :-)

I was the first person to die on AberMUD, and that particular story is told
here:

  https://dropsafe.crypticide.com/alecm/abermud/README_HISTORY.HTML

...along with a walk-through of the room descriptions from that era, respun
as simple navigation through clickable room descriptions.

I didn't go into the topic of this because it seemed a little far off the
topic of "Unix", but if Warren will permit me a brief digression, some of
which many of you will be completely aware, but this is for posterity:

Over here in Europe the Internet was not king; instead the UK universities
were linked by X.25 networks, the hostnames were bigendian, and the
services often literally chargeable.

The UK academia network was JANET (Joint Academic NETwork) and - since
systems could not communicate with each other unless a godlike "Network
Manager" waved dead chickens over them in arcane ceremonies - the students
wrote, and then advertised, samizdat style, the addresses and login
credentials for various "Bulletin Boards" which they would log into and
share messages.

Onesuch was University College London (UCL) "Bullet", run by myself, Rob
Newsom, and Steve Usher, at UCL.

Steve keeps a copy of Bullet running even today, the history and details
are at: https://www.earth.ox.ac.uk/~steve/bullet.html

At Aberystwyth - where I got a job after graduation, having hacked it
quietly but extensively - was Honeyboard, running on the previously
mentioned L66 under GCOS-3.  Authors: Alan Cox (of Linux fame)

Both Bullet & Honeyboard had "message boards" (cf: single-host USENET) and
"talkers" (group chat & private messaging) - the irony was that Bullet was
meant to be a MUD but turned into a Bulletin board, whereas Honeyboard was
a bulletin board which turned into a MUD - AberMUD.

In the latter case: "descriptions" (flat files, named by channel number)
were added as augmentation to numbered "talker channels", and the files
were given annotations ("#DEATH" - kills people on entry, logs them out) in
rooms with special features; then a basic action parser was hacked into the
chat system; the rest of *that* story is in the README_HISTORY.HTML link,
above.

Honeyboard became AberMUD, got enhanced with a lot of cleanup, then got
shared, and - this is where I get hazy - Rich $alz got a copy, reworked a
bunch of code (ported to C at this point? Or maybe earlier) and it got
posted to USENET... and the rest is more well-known history.

I'll send this now, and then forward the e-mail around some friends to see
if the source is extant.

    - alec


* footnote: we shared addresses of BBSes samizdat style amongst friends;
one very popular place to do that was Essex MUD, the source code for which
is upstream.  A TOPS-10 system, it permitted access to players from (IIRC)
2am until 7am on weekdays, plus extensions on weekends.  I lost a lot of
sleep that way.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-05 22:22 [TUHS] A decision Warren Toomey
2017-04-06 20:08 ` Josh Good
2017-04-06 20:32   ` Kurt H Maier
2017-04-06 21:23     ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2017-04-06 21:46       ` Josh Good
2017-04-07 11:56         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-07 12:20           ` William Corcoran
2017-04-07 14:05             ` Andru Luvisi
2017-04-07 15:09             ` Kurt H Maier
2017-04-07 15:23               ` Larry McVoy
2017-04-07 15:25                 ` ron minnich
2017-04-07 20:25                   ` Josh Good
2017-04-09  5:57                     ` Michaelian Ennis
2017-04-06 23:09   ` [TUHS] Non-US Unix Activities Warren Toomey
2017-04-07  5:15     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-07 19:56       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-07  8:44     ` Alec Muffett
2017-04-07  9:32       ` Robert Swierczek
2017-04-07 10:24         ` Alec Muffett
2017-04-07 11:35           ` jsteve
2017-04-07 16:09           ` Alec Muffett
2017-04-09  6:34             ` Random832
2017-04-09 11:03               ` Alec Muffett
2017-04-09 16:57                 ` Toby Thain
2017-04-09 19:20                   ` Random832
2017-04-10 13:06                   ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-04-09 22:45                 ` Steve Johnson
2017-04-10  5:40                   ` Robert Swierczek
2017-04-10 13:10                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-04-07 17:57           ` Robert Swierczek
2017-04-07 18:24             ` Toby Thain
2017-04-07 20:23               ` Robert Swierczek
2017-04-07 20:53                 ` Toby Thain
2017-04-07 21:51                   ` Robert Swierczek
2017-04-07 22:08                     ` Steve Johnson
2017-04-07 22:36                       ` Larry McVoy
2017-04-07 22:01                   ` Alec Muffett [this message]
2017-04-08 17:28                   ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-04-07 10:40         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-04-07 12:09     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-04-07 12:25       ` jsteve
2017-04-07 13:55         ` tfb
2017-04-07 14:36           ` George Ross
     [not found] <mailman.729.1491557525.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-04-07 14:29 ` Arrigo Triulzi
2017-04-07 23:31 Richard Tobin
2017-04-08 10:57 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-04-08 11:13   ` Jason Stevens
2017-04-08  9:46 Berny Goodheart
2017-04-08 10:28 ` Jason Stevens
2017-04-08 14:31 Doug McIlroy

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