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From: Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>
To: arnold@skeeve.com
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Clever code
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:10:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKH6PiU=2Au8c=pB-pk0dim-yXHEhEDM6o2dvCyEaNCNQrktAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202212131431.2BDEVCls018959@freefriends.org>

A delay line is logically like a drum, with circulating data that is
accessible only at one point on the circle. A delay line was
effectively a linear channel along which a train of data pulses was
sent. Pulses received at the far end were reshaped electronically. and
reinjected at the sending end. One kind of delay line was a mercury
column that carried acoustic pulses.. The PB 250 delay line was
magnetostrictive (a technology I know nothing about).

If instruction timing is known, then the next instruction to appear is
predictable. The only caveat is that instruction times should not be
data-dependent. You can lay out sequential code along the circle as
long as no instruction steps on one already placed. When that happens
you must switch modes to jump to an open spot, or perhaps insert nops
to jiggle the layout.

Doug

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 9:31 AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
>
> Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> > Apropos of accessing rotating storage, John Kelly used to describe the
> > Packard-Bell 250, which had a delay-line memory, as a machine where
> > addresses refer to time rather than space.
> >
> > The PB 250 had two instruction-sequencing modes. In one mode, each
> > instruction included the address of its successor. In the other mode,
> > whatever popped out the delay line when the current instruction
> > completed would be executed next.
> >
> > Doug
>
> For us (relative) youngsters, can you explain some more how delay
> line memory worked? The second mode you describe sounds like it
> would be impossible to use if you wanted repeatable, reproducible
> runs of your program.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arnold

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-13 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-13  3:30 Rudi Blom
2022-12-13  3:41 ` Warner Losh
2022-12-13  3:53 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-12-13  4:03   ` George Michaelson
2022-12-13  8:05     ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-12-13  9:45       ` Dagobert Michelsen
2022-12-13  7:47   ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-12-13 19:56     ` Dave Horsfall
2022-12-13 11:46   ` John P. Linderman
2022-12-13 14:07     ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-12-13 14:31       ` arnold
2022-12-13 14:48         ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-12-13 15:10         ` Douglas McIlroy [this message]
2022-12-13 15:34           ` Stuff Received
2022-12-13 15:56             ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-12-13 23:02           ` Harald Arnesen
2022-12-14  7:31           ` arnold
2022-12-15 18:06           ` Marc Donner
2022-12-15 18:08             ` Marc Donner
2022-12-15  6:30         ` [TUHS] Delay line memory (was: Clever code) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2022-12-13 15:52 ` [TUHS] Re: Clever code Bakul Shah
2022-12-13 16:14   ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-12-13 16:30     ` Bakul Shah
2022-12-15  6:39   ` [TUHS] Sector interleaving (was: Clever code) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-12-13 18:02 [TUHS] Re: Clever code Noel Chiappa
2022-12-13 17:58 Noel Chiappa
2022-12-13 18:51 ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-13 20:14   ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-13 20:58     ` Warren Toomey via TUHS
2022-12-14  2:28     ` Luther Johnson
2022-12-11 20:03 [TUHS] Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? Larry McVoy
2022-12-12  2:15 ` [TUHS] Clever code (was " Bakul Shah
2022-12-12  9:48   ` [TUHS] Re: Clever code Michael Kjörling

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