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From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
To: Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com>, tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday Morris worm [ really programming education ]
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:22:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0f1fad3-1e87-0fae-1571-f2fd01dec90a@case.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201911131802.xADI2fxE752068@darkstar.fourwinds.com>

On 11/13/19 1:02 PM, Jon Steinhart wrote:

> At the K-12 level, the stage is set by combination of the "everybody
> must learn to code" curriculum with "no child left behind".  School
> administrators dispense with any critical thinking about the value of
> the curriculum in order to chase grant dollars.

In my experience as a school board member, it's not grant dollars so much
as the amount of control the state exerts over the curriculum. The state
dictates the material and content that is taught. For AP classes, like
AP computer science, the College Board creates the courses and decides
what material is included. And in most cases, especially AP classes and
core classes where there are end-of-course proficiency requirements, the
material on those standardized tests dictates how the course is taught.

This is off-topic at this point.

-- 
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
		 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-13 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-12 20:56 [TUHS] Happy birthday Morris worm Norman Wilson
2019-11-12 22:00 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-12 22:10 ` [TUHS] buffer overflow (Re: " Bakul Shah
2019-11-12 22:14   ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-12 22:41     ` Robert Clausecker
2019-11-12 22:49       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-11-12 23:45       ` Jon Steinhart
2019-11-13  0:38         ` Warren Toomey
2019-11-13  1:09         ` Arthur Krewat
2019-11-13  0:24       ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-12 22:54   ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-12 23:22     ` Warner Losh
2019-11-12 23:27       ` Arthur Krewat
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1911191443530.10845@grey.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2019-11-21 20:02       ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-21 20:38         ` Warner Losh
2019-11-21 21:04           ` Clem Cole
2019-11-21 22:06           ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-21 21:48         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-11-13  7:35 ` [TUHS] " arnold
2019-11-13 18:02   ` [TUHS] Happy birthday Morris worm [ really programming education ] Jon Steinhart
2019-11-13 18:49     ` Tyler Adams
2019-11-13 19:15     ` [TUHS] #defines and enums ron
2019-11-13 21:11       ` Warner Losh
2019-11-13 21:22     ` Chet Ramey [this message]
2019-11-15 22:49     ` [TUHS] Happy birthday Morris worm [ really programming education ] Adam Thornton
2019-11-15 23:59       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o

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