Re: [proposal] templates without official binaries

[hippi777 <hippi777@users.noreply.github.com>]

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New comment by hippi777 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/25901#issuecomment-717238412

Comment:
ohh, thx, i see! :)

so, if i understood correctly, then there are some missing bits without actually running the functions inside the templates, and the info that can be obtained from the variables are insufficient, and its still not a real solution to not make actual packages but something similar with whatever info that can be obtained from the templates...

this way, i can think about 3 possibilities, or 4:

the 1st is to have them only for having a template that either works or not, but its already written and those who want to make use of it, will still need to test it on their own, but they wont need to write it from the ground up, and there is nothing much to do about these other than letting them exists with some isolation or denotation as such.

the 2nd is to get the actual metadata from those that will actually use them (maybe alongside their identity and environment), as actually running them is the missing link, and then the integrity checks can be done, while it is only reliable at this level, but not that these or things relying on them will really work, and in the worst case (mistake or bad intention) it just wont actually work. whoever would use such should be aware of this, but its still better than hunting for templates in the wild or doing it alone.

the 3rd possibility, is that if the infra, as a bottleneck, is the only showstopper, then it is to ask the community to pay for some upgrades, and i think it would work and render void that much more competitive.

the 4th is the sad path, that is letting void get fragmented by those who want to resolve common needs elsewhere, like how ymir-linux became a thing (that i found after my message :D ), that really isnt in a shiny state as of now, and i think i only saw 2 ppl there, but its about nothing that really requires a spin-off, while it could be really a strong selling point for void. (((btw i saw on the way that the ryf cert has even more crazy requirements, like the nonfree repo couldnt even exists... X'D but whatever, if void can be used without blobs with official support, then it can be advertised as such without a ryf cert.)))