Re: [proposal] templates without official binaries

[hippi777 <hippi777@users.noreply.github.com>]

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New comment by hippi777 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/25901#issuecomment-720075682

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im somewhat dumb to git, but not really, thats not the point, u got mislead by that i am puzzled around it....

those patches only make me understand the difference between the two projects easier, as by simply looking at the ymir repo couldnt help me to figure out their changes. maybe i didnt look hard enough, or it would require some git wizardry to find those 200 packages they patched from that 10k that void has... but this is not the point, this is probably the lack of my education. :D 

the point is that the templates can have optional variations, that is already an existing possibility, and that can be utilized by xbps-src to create the packages either this or that way as a matter of providing a flag (lets say it could even be 'libre' for this case). and the patches they maintain could probably be merged into the original template by utilizing these options. however my problem is that i dont know the scope of these options, while my inner hacker says theres no impossible.

on the contrary, i dunno if _those_ patches that come alongside the templates can be made optional, or they are applied automatically when they present, no matter what. i also dunno if linting (in case of hardcore hacking) or any magic of xbps-src would limit the scope of utilizing those options, and therefore it would prevent bringing anything onto the common ground, that is only about the templates, not the packages.

i think this could be beneficial for both projects, keeping the gap minimal, making the cooperation easier, it maybe even be a step towards a future reunion that we cant even imagine as of now, but here is the power and there is the liberation, and i see that this is a hard nut, but as far as i can think, void has the possibility to include those efforts at the level of the templates, and then the two projects can still do their own different builds.

this was the topic of my previous message.

other than that, that is the original proposal here, is for having templates for whatever stuffs that arent built officially. u can even think about it as a junkyard, where ppl can find their own treasures, that they will maybe need to work on (or maybe not), but at least they will have something to work on and that they dont need to pull out from the thin-air, like even a template for git head grub, that isnt a thing now (in general), cuz it would be a pain to maintain the builds... when someone asked for it, i could search my messy notes.txt for this https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/eo1y08/luks2_support_in_grub/ and i think such materies could get a common ground, and probably it would be the best to keep such gems near to the official templates to be easier to keep them more-or-less in sync with the rest of void, even if they wouldnt get much special care.

and sure, thx for ur patience! i hope i will be able to catch up by the time and become more useful! :D