* [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri
@ 2020-05-16 8:50 notramo
2020-05-16 9:24 ` st3r4g
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From: notramo @ 2020-05-16 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New issue by notramo on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007
Description:
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### System
* xuname:
Void 5.4.40_1 x86_64 GenuineIntel uptodate rFFFFFFF
* package:
`sway-1.4_3`
### Expected behavior
`mesa-dri` is installed with `sway`
### Actual behavior
Sway doesn't start unless I manually install `mesa-dri`.
### Steps to reproduce the behavior
Install `sway`, but not `mesa-dri`.
Start Sway from the console.
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
@ 2020-05-16 9:24 ` st3r4g
2020-05-16 9:28 ` st3r4g
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From: st3r4g @ 2020-05-16 9:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by st3r4g on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-629616076
Comment:
This is currently documented in https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/graphical-session/wayland.html#video-drivers
I agree that the mesa drivers should be automatically installed by default, but adding them to `sway` is wrong. Instead, `libglvnd` should pull them in as default GL provider, but this is not so easy to achieve with current packaging situation
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
2020-05-16 9:24 ` st3r4g
@ 2020-05-16 9:28 ` st3r4g
2020-05-16 9:32 ` notramo
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From: st3r4g @ 2020-05-16 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by st3r4g on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-629616076
Comment:
This is currently documented in https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/graphical-session/wayland.html#video-drivers
I agree that the mesa drivers should be automatically installed by default, but adding them to `sway` is wrong. Instead, `libglvnd` should pull them in as default GL provider, but this is not so easy to achieve cleanly with current packaging situation
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
2020-05-16 9:24 ` st3r4g
2020-05-16 9:28 ` st3r4g
@ 2020-05-16 9:32 ` notramo
2020-05-16 9:37 ` st3r4g
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From: notramo @ 2020-05-16 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-629617060
Comment:
What about adding an install message with the link?
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-16 9:32 ` notramo
@ 2020-05-16 9:37 ` st3r4g
2020-05-27 21:10 ` ericonr
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From: st3r4g @ 2020-05-16 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by st3r4g on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-629617652
Comment:
Users are encouraged to read the docs. Relying on install messages is poor because they can be easily lost in xbps install log (and many people don't pay attention to them anyway)
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-16 9:37 ` st3r4g
@ 2020-05-27 21:10 ` ericonr
2020-05-27 21:11 ` ericonr
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From: ericonr @ 2020-05-27 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by ericonr on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-634942281
Comment:
@st3r4g would this really solve the issue? If someone had installed nvidia drivers as the libglvnd provider, and then installed Sway, it still wouldn't work.
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-27 21:10 ` ericonr
@ 2020-05-27 21:11 ` ericonr
2020-05-27 21:55 ` st3r4g
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From: ericonr @ 2020-05-27 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by ericonr on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-634942281
Comment:
@st3r4g would this really solve the issue? If someone had installed nvidia drivers as the libglvnd provider, and then installed Sway, it still wouldn't work. I'm not sure what the best solution would be :c
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-27 21:11 ` ericonr
@ 2020-05-27 21:55 ` st3r4g
2020-05-27 21:56 ` st3r4g
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From: st3r4g @ 2020-05-27 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by st3r4g on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-634963578
Comment:
Well I'd say users are expected to know that sway doesn't work with nvidia drivers. Adding a hard-dependency to `mesa-dri` wouldn't work either, because users still won't be prevented from installing `nvidia` (they will be side-by-side with the mesa drivers). The only way would be with a `conflicts=` but... ugh
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-27 21:55 ` st3r4g
@ 2020-05-27 21:56 ` st3r4g
2020-05-27 21:56 ` st3r4g
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From: st3r4g @ 2020-05-27 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by st3r4g on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-634963578
Comment:
Well I'd say users are expected to know that sway doesn't work with nvidia drivers. Adding a hard-dependency to `mesa-dri` wouldn't work either, because users still won't be prevented from installing `nvidia` (it will be side-by-side with the mesa drivers). The only way would be with a `conflicts=` but... ugh
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-27 21:56 ` st3r4g
@ 2020-05-27 21:56 ` st3r4g
2020-05-28 15:56 ` notramo
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From: st3r4g @ 2020-05-27 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by st3r4g on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-634963578
Comment:
Well I'd say users are expected to know that sway doesn't work with nvidia drivers. Adding a hard-dependency to `mesa-dri` wouldn't work either, because users still won't be prevented from installing `nvidia` (they will be side-by-side with the mesa drivers). The only way would be with a `conflicts=` but... ugh
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-27 21:56 ` st3r4g
@ 2020-05-28 15:56 ` notramo
2020-05-28 21:17 ` ericonr
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From: notramo @ 2020-05-28 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-635436578
Comment:
> Users are encouraged to read the docs. Relying on install messages is poor because they can be easily lost in xbps install log (and many people don't pay attention to them anyway)
Do it harm anything? If not, why not add it? It's better than nothing.
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-28 15:56 ` notramo
@ 2020-05-28 21:17 ` ericonr
2020-05-28 22:00 ` Duncaen
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From: ericonr @ 2020-05-28 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by ericonr on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-635612862
Comment:
@notramo the way I see it, this is due to Void's policy for packages. We tend to not bundle anything that's not essential. For example, you can install an X window manager and that won't pull in the actual Xorg server, because you might desire to run that through the network instead. For wayland, you could use the X backend (for some reason) or even the headless one, and in that case it won't make sense for `mesa-dri` to be installed.
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-28 21:17 ` ericonr
@ 2020-05-28 22:00 ` Duncaen
2021-01-21 17:59 ` ericonr
2021-01-21 17:59 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " ericonr
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From: Duncaen @ 2020-05-28 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by Duncaen on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-635631040
Comment:
> Do it harm anything? If not, why not add it? It's better than nothing.
Yes it makes people even less likely to read actually important INSTALL messages, like the recent openssh update that required the user to restart sshd for new connections to work.
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* Re: Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2020-05-28 22:00 ` Duncaen
@ 2021-01-21 17:59 ` ericonr
2021-01-21 17:59 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " ericonr
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From: ericonr @ 2021-01-21 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by ericonr on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007#issuecomment-764831723
Comment:
This is being discussed in #27286 and #18712 , closing this.
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* Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] Sway requires mesa-dri
2020-05-16 8:50 [ISSUE] Sway requires mesa-dri notramo
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2021-01-21 17:59 ` ericonr
@ 2021-01-21 17:59 ` ericonr
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From: ericonr @ 2021-01-21 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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Closed issue by notramo on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/22007
Description:
<!-- Don't request update of package. We have a script for that. https://alpha.de.repo.voidlinux.org/void-updates/void-updates.txt . However, a quality pull request may help. -->
### System
* xuname:
Void 5.4.40_1 x86_64 GenuineIntel uptodate rFFFFFFF
* package:
`sway-1.4_3`
### Expected behavior
`mesa-dri` is installed with `sway`
### Actual behavior
Sway doesn't start unless I manually install `mesa-dri`.
### Steps to reproduce the behavior
Install `sway`, but not `mesa-dri`.
Start Sway from the console.
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