* Re: GLIB problems
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From: sgn @ 2022-10-06 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269378737
Comment:
Confirmed for `parole`.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: sgn @ 2022-10-06 6:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269378737
Comment:
Confirmed, `parole` crashes on `sway`.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display value from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. This isn't related to glib (XFCE does not support Wayland atm, although it may be submitting a bug report).
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display value from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. This isn't related to glib (XFCE does not support Wayland atm, although it may be submitting a bug report).
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: sgn @ 2022-10-06 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269549667
Comment:
Not really a glib issue, I downgraded glib but `parole` still crashes. So, must be something else. @oreo639 suggests this line:
https://github.com/xfce-mirror/parole/blob/e2e85642c8ada8843b8d8f775ca045ed85e0b721/src/parole-button.c#L191
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display value from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. This isn't related to glib (XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may be submitting a bug report).
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display value from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. This isn't related to glib (XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report).
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display value from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. This isn't related to glib (XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream).
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display struct from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. This isn't related to glib (XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream).
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display struct from gtk and passing it to xlib regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. Regardless, this isn't related to glib. XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display struct from gtk and passing it to xlib directly regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. Regardless, this isn't related to glib. XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display struct from gtk and passing it to xlib directly regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. Regardless, this isn't related to glib. XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream.
Also, I am using gvfs-goa with Thunar right now and it works for me.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display struct from gtk and passing it to xlib directly regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. Regardless, this isn't related to glib. XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream.
Also, I am using gvfs-goa with Thunar right now and it works for me so it may be something else.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: oreo639 @ 2022-10-06 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269548962
Comment:
iirc I have run into parole and xfce4-mouse-settings crash on wayland for a while.
It is caused by grabbing the display struct from gtk and passing it to xlib directly regardless of the display server, which on wayland causes xlib to crash. Regardless, this isn't related to glib. XFCE does not support wayland atm, although it may still be worth submitting a bug report upstream.
Also, I am using gvfs-goa with Thunar right now and it works for me so the issue may be something else.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: paper42 @ 2022-10-06 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by paper42 on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269681090
Comment:
> ### gvfs
>
> thunar report the gvfs was not work currectly, and there's no vols appear in left panel of thunar. for tracering the issue, all of them report an GLIB error. for example , this is the report of gvfs debug , using comomand `GVFS_DEBUG=1 $(find /usr/lib* -name gvfsd 2>/dev/null) --replace 2>&1 | tee gvfsd.log ` :
>
> ```
>
> (process:14320): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.921: g_object_new_with_properties: assertion 'G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed
>
> (process:14320): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.924: g_volume_monitor_get_mounts: assertion 'G_IS_VOLUME_MONITOR (volume_monitor)' failed
>
> (process:14320): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: 11:21:21.924: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
>
> (process:14320): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.924: g_signal_connect_data: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
>
> (process:14320): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: 11:21:21.924: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
>
> (process:14320): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.924: g_signal_connect_data: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
> ```
These errors seem to only be because you forgot to set GIO_MODULE_DIR=/usr/lib/gio/modules.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: superiums @ 2022-10-06 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by superiums on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269899431
Comment:
gvfs suddenly works, reason unkown.
the GIO_MODULE_DIR is blank still.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: superiums @ 2022-10-08 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by superiums on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1272304736
Comment:
gvfs worked only once. reason unkown.
nothing changed that time in my mind.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: superiums @ 2022-10-21 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by superiums on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1286752042
Comment:
> > ### gvfs
> > thunar report the gvfs was not work currectly, and there's no vols appear in left panel of thunar. for tracering the issue, all of them report an GLIB error. for example , this is the report of gvfs debug , using comomand `GVFS_DEBUG=1 $(find /usr/lib* -name gvfsd 2>/dev/null) --replace 2>&1 | tee gvfsd.log ` :
> > ```
> >
> > (process:14320): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.921: g_object_new_with_properties: assertion 'G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed
> >
> > (process:14320): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.924: g_volume_monitor_get_mounts: assertion 'G_IS_VOLUME_MONITOR (volume_monitor)' failed
> >
> > (process:14320): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: 11:21:21.924: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
> >
> > (process:14320): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.924: g_signal_connect_data: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
> >
> > (process:14320): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: 11:21:21.924: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
> >
> > (process:14320): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 11:21:21.924: g_signal_connect_data: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
> > ```
>
> These errors seem to only be because you forgot to set GIO_MODULE_DIR=/usr/lib/gio/modules.
after set GIO_MODULE_DIR , there's no lucky happens.
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: superiums @ 2022-10-22 4:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by superiums on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1287612891
Comment:
gvfs problem was solved by config greetd:
/etc/greetd/config.toml
```
command = "tuigreet -t --remember --remember-user-session --asterisks -g 'BE COUCIOUSNESS' --cmd 'dbus-launch --exit-with-session wayfire' "
```
instead of let greetd use the sway/wayfire session file.
so , gvfs fails due to dbus communication.
by the way ,
``` firejail firefox ``` fails also due to this problem.
hope this helpful to others who occurs this problem.
- parole still not solved.
- lxdm still fails , in another pc, fresh installed system. report `Authorization required, but no authorization protocol specified`
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: superiums @ 2022-10-22 4:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by superiums on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1287612891
Comment:
gvfs problem was solved by config greetd:
/etc/greetd/config.toml
```
command = "tuigreet -t --remember --remember-user-session --asterisks -g 'BE COUCIOUSNESS' --cmd 'dbus-launch --exit-with-session wayfire' "
```
instead of let greetd use the sway/wayfire session file.
so , gvfs fails due to dbus communication.
by the way , ``` firejail firefox ``` fails also due to this problem.
hope this helpful to others who occurs this problem.
- parole still not solved.
- lxdm still fails , in another pc, fresh installed system. report `Authorization required, but no authorization protocol specified`
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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2022-12-13 7:12 ` sgn
2022-12-13 7:14 ` sgn
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From: sgn @ 2022-12-13 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1347842818
Comment:
`parole` crash on wayland is a known problem upstream. https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: sgn @ 2022-12-13 7:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1269378737
Comment:
Confirmed, `parole` crashes on `sway`.
EDIT:
`parole` crash with upstream, too.
So, don't count on it https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
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* Re: GLIB problems
2022-10-06 5:04 [ISSUE] GLIB problems superiums
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From: sgn @ 2022-12-13 7:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by superiums on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/39752#issuecomment-1287612891
Comment:
gvfs problem was solved by config greetd:
/etc/greetd/config.toml
```
command = "tuigreet -t --remember --remember-user-session --asterisks -g 'BE COUCIOUSNESS' --cmd 'dbus-launch --exit-with-session wayfire' "
```
instead of let greetd use the sway/wayfire session file.
so , gvfs fails due to dbus communication.
by the way , ``` firejail firefox ``` fails also due to this problem.
hope this helpful to others who occurs this problem.
- parole still not solved. **WON'T FIX**
- lxdm still fails , in another pc, fresh installed system. report `Authorization required, but no authorization protocol specified`
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread