RE: Wireguard not available for CentOS Stream

[Jonathan Aquilina <jaquilina@eagleeyet.net>]

Hi,

Is Fedora a rolling release so to speak? I remember they used to call fedora the bleeding edge distro not really geared for production environments is that still accurate. I have only used it as a work station desktop with KDE installed.

Regards,
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: WireGuard <wireguard-bounces@lists.zx2c4.com> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton
Sent: 04 January 2021 22:55
To: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: WireGuard mailing list <wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: Wireguard not available for CentOS Stream

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 7:48 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:24 AM Joe Doss <joe@solidadmin.com> wrote:
> >
> > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jdoss/wireguard/
> >
> > The official DKMS install method for CentOS has a Stream repo 
> > enabled. It should work fine. Let us know if you have any issues.
>
> It's actually presently broken. I've fixed it in the master branch with:
> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-linux-compat/commit/?id=f7f55464a156e1
> 181fa76d9c7e2fc0d495f2357e
>
> But Red Hat still has not fixed other bugs that will enable our CI to 
> continue, and I won't release for RHEL alone until the CI is green.
> You can cherry pick that into your dkms package if you need. I wrote 
> Red Hat a patch and sent it, but there's been no updated kernel yet.
>
> More generally, I'm on the fence about how much I actually want to 
> support CentOS Stream. CentOS non-Stream is annoying, because it's 
> developed behind closed doors and is extremely slow to fix things, but 
> at least the changes are gradual and it's easy to keep up with, by 
> virtue of rarely changing. In contrast, CentOS Stream is fast moving, 
> and extremely unstable, with builds frequently breaking. This would be 
> fine and I would prefer it, since it means we can in theory get things 
> fixed reasonably fast, but actually, Stream is still developed behind 
> closed doors, with no visibility about what's going on, no 
> communication from RH on when fixes are coming out, no regular or 
> reliable release schedule, no releases for months sometimes, and just 
> a bugzilla blackbox that forces all reports to be private/secret. So,
> unstable+secretive development makes developing for CentOS Stream
> nearly as fun as developing for macOS, which is to say, not very fun.

From an admin and developer perspective I find Fedora Server a real gem. Speaking from experience, I would much rather work on Fedora than CentOS or Red Hat.  Fedora Server comes with the latest stable tools and does not need things like Software Collections (SCL) to get a modern Apache, Python or PHP.

Every year or so Fedora Server needs a DNF System Upgrade (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/),
which is like a Ubuntu dist-upgrade. I've not had one go bad since I started using it back around F12 or F15.

If Wireguard needs to make a Red Hat-family recommendation, I think it would be wise to consider Fedora Server.

Jeff