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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: triviality regarding $# counts
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 21:57:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH+w=7YJFeEnG3Ha1rcH45p=y2xObJDpfdxKrbR=0Y-E49hZcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a1e027c-a9d8-4306-bf3b-e1282914644c@app.fastmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:49 PM Lawrence Velázquez <larryv@zsh.org> wrote:
>
> In a sense, you've been using it all along.  Given an array "arr",
> $arr is the same as $arr[*] (by default), which is why double-quoting
> it produces a single word.

This puts me in mind of a couple of other details.

Because zsh does not split parameter expansions by default, $ary and
$ary[*] and $ary[@] are equivalent when not quoted, as Lawrence
demonstrated.

However, in all three of those cases, empty elements are typically
discarded, as they would be in a shell that defaults to splitting.
That's why "$ary[@]" is still useful:  It quotes each element
individually, so empty elements are preserved.

(Aside, in bash and ksh, $ary is equivalent to ${ary[0]}, not to
${ary[*]}.  A little oddly, this is also true for their associative
arrays, that is, the value for key 0 is used.)


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-14  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11  0:56 Ray Andrews
2024-04-12  4:55 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-04-12 14:48   ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-12 19:09     ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-13  1:13       ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13  1:33         ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-13  2:28           ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13  3:25             ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-04-13 14:37               ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13 15:14                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13 17:19                   ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-13 17:27                     ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-13 18:08                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13 19:45                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-13 20:36                           ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13 21:01                             ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-14  0:28                               ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14  0:30                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-04-14  3:26                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14  3:49                                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-04-14  4:57                                     ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2024-04-14 13:24                                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14 13:35                                         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-04-14 14:06                                           ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14 14:15                                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-04-14 14:53                                               ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14 15:11                                                 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-14 16:23                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14 14:06                                         ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-14 14:47                                           ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14 14:59                                             ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-14 15:51                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-14 17:22                                           ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-14 17:42                                             ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-14 18:24                                               ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-14 22:00                                               ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13 20:11                         ` Mark J. Reed
2024-04-13 20:53                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-14  0:19                     ` Ray Andrews
2024-04-13  1:35         ` Bart Schaefer

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