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From: Roman Perepelitsa <roman.perepelitsa@gmail.com>
To: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: more splitting travails
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 06:51:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN=4vMqJO4FyrRBFVAPTfFrE_gOFqX=7i=WdnOAsaqtbyFwaOQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <970c7767-3f26-4cc9-a4f1-a7d62eca4ded@eastlink.ca>

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:55 AM Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> Well, Roman will be glad to hear that I was just about to do a typeset -p on both versions to see the difference.
>
> 0 /aWorking/Zsh/Source/Wk 0 % typeset -p vvar
> typeset -a vvar=( 'one two' three '' four '' 'five six seven' '' '' eight )
>
> 0 /aWorking/Zsh/Source/Wk 0 % typeset -p aaa
> typeset aaa=$'one two\nthree\n\nfour\n\nfive six seven\n\n\neight'
>
> I won't forget again.

I *am* glad.

Whenever I start  learning a new programming language, the very first
thing I always research is how to do "printf debugging" in it. This is
what the technique of inserting manual instrumentation in your code is
called. If you know how to printf debug, you can see what your
programs do, which in turn allows you to understand the programming
language by experimentation.

So, `typeset -p` isn't just one of the multitude of tricks that zsh
practitioners have in their toolbox. It's not in the same category as
"how to read the full content of a file" or "how to generate a secure
random number". No, it's a meta tool that lets you understand your own
code. You absolutely must remember it.

Roman.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-13  5:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-12 19:05 Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 19:19 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 19:56   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:07     ` Mark J. Reed
     [not found]   ` <CAA=-s3zc5a+PA7draaA=FmXtwU9K8RrHbb70HbQN8MhmuXTYrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-01-12 20:03     ` Fwd: " Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 20:32       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:50         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13  2:12           ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:51         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 21:57           ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-12 22:09             ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13  3:06               ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  3:36                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  4:07                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13  5:39               ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13 20:02                 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 20:07                   ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-14  5:03                     ` zcurses mouse delay (not Re: Slurping a file) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-14  5:35                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 10:34                   ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 10:57                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 15:36                     ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 15:41                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 20:13                       ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15  0:03                         ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  0:55                           ` Empty element elision and associative arrays (was Re: Slurping a file) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15  4:09                             ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  7:01                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:47                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 16:20                                 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-18 17:22                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 17:36                                     ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-18 17:55                                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 22:34                               ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-18 23:08                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19  2:46                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-19  2:58                                     ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 10:27                                       ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-01-19 13:45                                         ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-01-19 14:37                                           ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-19 14:57                                             ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 15:46                                               ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-19 16:01                                                 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-01-19 17:15                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 17:42                                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-19 18:45                                                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 22:09                     ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15  8:53                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 19:57                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-16 20:07                           ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-16 20:14                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 20:38                               ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-16 20:43                                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 22:27                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  2:00                     ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15  4:24                       ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  6:56                         ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:37                           ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 15:10                             ` Marc Chantreux
2024-01-15 15:29                               ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-15 16:16                                 ` Marc Chantreux
2024-01-15 16:33                                   ` MUAs (was: Re: Slurping a file) zeurkous
2024-01-16  7:23                               ` Slurping a file Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-16 14:37                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-17  3:50                                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-17  5:10                                     ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  7:26                       ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:48                         ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 13:13                       ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Marc Chantreux
2024-02-10 20:48                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-02-11  0:59                       ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11  4:49                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-11  5:04                           ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11  4:46                       ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-11  5:06                         ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11  7:09                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-01-13  2:19           ` Fwd: more splitting travails Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  3:59             ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13  4:54               ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  5:51                 ` Roman Perepelitsa [this message]
2024-01-13 16:40                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13 18:22                     ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 19:08                       ` Ray Andrews

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