From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: more splitting travails
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:40:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff84bf3e-d01d-4bb3-a395-a220752b0cc5@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN=4vMqJO4FyrRBFVAPTfFrE_gOFqX=7i=WdnOAsaqtbyFwaOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2024-01-12 21:51, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
> I *am* glad.
> ... No, it's a meta tool that lets you understand your own
> code. You absolutely must remember it.
I quite understand! To know the trade, the first thing is to know the
tools. Ironically my 'varis' is precisely a souped up: "printf
debugging" tool and I will not endure that arrays with blanks will not
show me the bleeding blanks. If I want the blanks unshown I will *ask*
for them to be unshown. If I copy an array I want an exact duplicate
*unless* I specify otherwise. If I'm typing a letter don't correct my
spelling automatically, I'll *ask* for spellcheck if I want it.
Sometimes you make a speling mestake on purpose. [/micro-rant]
As a self-taught zsheller working by myself I haven't the advantage of
the 'up close and personal' chance to absorb culture and craft from
experts like yourself. It's a bit like trying to learn Finnish over the
internet talking to people who only speak Finnish when I myself don't
yet know one word of it. But slowly, slowly things come clear. You guys
are wonderfully patient. A single sentence can work wonders. Things you
know so deeply you don't think they need to be mentioned. Eg. Bart
saying that if it's not in quotes, or an expansion, then it's active.
And if it is an expansion then '(P)' makes it active again. It blows
away the fog. (And naturally there will be 17.02 exceptions -- 18.1 on
Tuesday -- but it's a head start.)
BTW, speaking of tools, wouldn't it be nice to be able to step thru the
code, one line at a time? Could do that with C back in the day.
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2024-01-12 19:05 Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 19:19 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 19:56 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:07 ` Mark J. Reed
[not found] ` <CAA=-s3zc5a+PA7draaA=FmXtwU9K8RrHbb70HbQN8MhmuXTYrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-01-12 20:03 ` Fwd: " Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 20:32 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:50 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13 2:12 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:51 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 21:57 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-12 22:09 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 3:06 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13 3:36 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13 4:07 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 5:39 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13 20:02 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 20:07 ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 5:03 ` zcurses mouse delay (not Re: Slurping a file) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-14 5:35 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 10:34 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 10:57 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 15:36 ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 15:41 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 20:13 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 0:03 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 0:55 ` Empty element elision and associative arrays (was Re: Slurping a file) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15 4:09 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 7:01 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:47 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 16:20 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-18 17:22 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 17:36 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-18 17:55 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 22:34 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-18 23:08 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 2:46 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-19 2:58 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 10:27 ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-01-19 13:45 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-01-19 14:37 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-19 14:57 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 15:46 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-19 16:01 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-01-19 17:15 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 17:42 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-19 18:45 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 22:09 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15 8:53 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 19:57 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-16 20:07 ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-16 20:14 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 20:38 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-16 20:43 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 22:27 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 2:00 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15 4:24 ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 6:56 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:37 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 15:10 ` Marc Chantreux
2024-01-15 15:29 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-15 16:16 ` Marc Chantreux
2024-01-15 16:33 ` MUAs (was: Re: Slurping a file) zeurkous
2024-01-16 7:23 ` Slurping a file Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-16 14:37 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-17 3:50 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-17 5:10 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 7:26 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:48 ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 13:13 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Marc Chantreux
2024-02-10 20:48 ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-02-11 0:59 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11 4:49 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-11 5:04 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11 4:46 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-11 5:06 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11 7:09 ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-01-13 2:19 ` Fwd: more splitting travails Ray Andrews
2024-01-13 3:59 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 4:54 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13 5:51 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13 16:40 ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2024-01-13 18:22 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 19:08 ` Ray Andrews
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