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From: Stephane Chazelas <stephane@chazelas.org>
To: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] (?) typeset array[position=index]=value
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 15:20:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210602142005.b5tw2hj2c6q3psqv@chazelas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdc0622f-9e89-4d96-8eda-7a8357cef6b9@www.fastmail.com>

2021-06-02 13:34:57 +0000, Daniel Shahaf:
[...]
> Haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if I'm missing something, but:
> 
> Please let's not invent a reserved word that uses different variable
> expansion rules.  The sequence «hash[$key]» should mean the same thing
> everywhere.

That's the problem here.

It's already different in

hash[$key]=1
typeset hash[$key]=1 # same as in assignment in recent versions
                     # of zsh where here typeset is a keyword

(( hash[$key] = 1 ))


unset hash[$key] # globbing performed.
read hash[$key]
$dryrun typeset hash[$key]=1 # here typeset not recognised as
                             # keyword

$dryrun typeset 'hash[$key]=1'
read 'hash[$key]'
let 'hash[$key] = 1' # yes, it works despite the single quotes
                     # and is actually safe it seems

unset 'hash[$key]' # unsets the element of key $key (literally)

(see also
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/627474/how-to-use-associative-arrays-safely-inside-arithmetic-expressions/627475#627475)

Parsing rules are different because we are in different
contexts. For unset hash[$key] or unset hash[(e)*] to treat
those as associative array lvalue, and not globs, it would need
to be a reserved word, like typeset above.

But, yes I agree it's all very messy.

> Instead, we could have a builtin that takes two separate
> arguments, as in «foo hash $key» (and «foo hash ''» to unset the element
> whose key is the empty string).
> 
> Makes sense?
[...]

I suggested:

unset -k "$key" hash

for that.

-- 
Stephane


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-02 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16 21:10 regexp-replace and ^, word boundary or look-behind operators Stephane Chazelas
2019-12-16 21:27 ` Stephane Chazelas
2019-12-17  7:38   ` Stephane Chazelas
2019-12-17 11:11     ` [PATCH] " Stephane Chazelas
2019-12-18  0:22       ` Daniel Shahaf
2019-12-18  8:31         ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-01-01 14:03         ` [PATCH v2] " Stephane Chazelas
2021-04-30  6:11           ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-04-30 23:13             ` Bart Schaefer
2021-05-05 11:45               ` [PATCH v3] regexp-replace and ^, word boundary or look-behind operators (and more) Stephane Chazelas
2021-05-31  0:58                 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-31 18:18                 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-05-31 21:37                   ` [PATCH] (?) typeset array[position=index]=value Bart Schaefer
2021-06-01  5:32                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-01 16:05                       ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-02  2:51                         ` [PATCH] (take two?) typeset array[position=index]=value / unset hash[$stuff] Bart Schaefer
2021-06-02 10:06                           ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-02 14:52                             ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-02 16:02                               ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-02  9:11                         ` [PATCH] (?) typeset array[position=index]=value Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-02 13:34                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-06-02 14:20                             ` Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2021-06-02 15:59                               ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-03  2:04                                 ` [PATCH (not final)] (take three?) unset "array[$anything]" Bart Schaefer
2021-06-03  2:42                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-03  6:12                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-03  8:54                                       ` Peter Stephenson
2021-06-03 13:13                                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-03 14:41                                           ` Peter Stephenson
2021-06-04 19:25                                             ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-05 18:18                                               ` Peter Stephenson
2021-06-09 23:31                                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-13 16:51                                                   ` Peter Stephenson
2021-06-13 18:04                                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-13 19:48                                                       ` Peter Stephenson
2021-06-13 21:44                                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-14  7:19                                                           ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-03 18:12                                           ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-04  8:02                                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-04 18:36                                               ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-04 20:21                                                 ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-05  0:20                                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-05 17:05                                                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-10  0:14                                                       ` Square brackets in command position Bart Schaefer
2021-06-03  6:05                                   ` [PATCH (not final)] (take three?) unset "array[$anything]" Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-03  6:43                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-03  7:31                                       ` Stephane Chazelas
2021-06-10  0:21                         ` [PATCH] (?) typeset array[position=index]=value Bart Schaefer
2021-06-05  4:29                     ` Mikael Magnusson
2021-06-05  5:49                       ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-05 11:06                         ` Mikael Magnusson
2021-06-05 16:22                           ` Bart Schaefer
2021-06-18 10:53                         ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-03-08 15:30                 ` [PATCH v3] regexp-replace and ^, word boundary or look-behind operators (and more) Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-09  8:41                   ` [PATCH v5] " Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-09  9:21                     ` MBEGIN when =~ finds bytes inside characters (Was: [PATCH v5] regexp-replace and ^, word boundary or look-behind operators (and more).) Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-09 13:03                   ` [PATCH v3] regexp-replace and ^, word boundary or look-behind operators (and more) Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-10 19:52                     ` [PATCH v6] " Stephane Chazelas

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