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From: <hzoli@VNET.IBM.COM> (Zoltan T. Hidvegi)
To: zefram@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Zefram)
Cc: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu (Zsh workers list)
Subject: Re: test patches
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:09:17 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9705091809.AA14534@lotto.fishkill.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9760.199705091400@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> from Zefram at "May 9, 97 03:00:46 pm"

Zefram wrote:
> Zoltan Hidvegi wrote:
> >                                                          Unfortunately
> >some Linux programs assume that /bin/sh has brace expansion so I'm thinking
> >about making ignorebraces off by default even in sh mode.
>
> Please don't.  Those Linux programs are assuming that sh is really bash,
> and are therefore broken.  In my experience, considering how simple they
> are to fix, authors are usually willing to fix them.

You are right, but if I want to tell people that here is zsh, just link it
to sh and use it, they will complain that it brakes this and that.  Fixing
a program is easy, but finding all programs depending on this feature is
difficult, and even if you do find everything, old installations will still
have some old broken binaries.  For the same reason has zsh so much obscure
bug compatibility code.  And some Linux developers simply tell you, that if
/bin/sh is not bash, then your Linux system is broken anyway.

Perhaps there are'n too many programs using brace expansion, but I have
even seen a program using this in a system() libc call )-:.

Zoltan


  reply	other threads:[~1997-05-09 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-05-09  7:42 Zoltan Hidvegi
1997-05-09  8:04 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1997-05-09 17:50   ` Zoltan T. Hidvegi
1997-05-09  8:49 ` Bart Schaefer
1997-05-09 14:00 ` Zefram
1997-05-09 18:09   ` Zoltan T. Hidvegi [this message]
1997-05-09 20:40     ` Zefram
1997-05-09 21:04       ` Zoltan T. Hidvegi
1997-05-10 17:09 ` Bart Schaefer
1997-05-10 17:48   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1997-05-10 19:12     ` Bart Schaefer
1997-05-11  4:57       ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1997-05-12 12:41 ` Andrej Borsenkow
1997-05-12 17:49   ` Zefram
1997-05-13  5:46     ` Andrej Borsenkow
1997-05-13 16:08       ` Zefram
1997-05-13 18:53         ` Zoltan T. Hidvegi
1997-05-11  6:19 Zoltan Hidvegi

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