From: "Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan" <dharani@lucent.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] GCC3.0 [Was; Webbrowser]
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:39:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <006e01c2cdf5$eb2187c0$4ef0b487@bl.belllabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302060804520.10561-100000@carotid.ccs.lanl.gov>
Hi,
I like the current implementation of Plan 9. It is sufficiently fast,
stable, clean and simple to understand. If there is a severe performance
problem, someone always takes care of it.
I wouldnt worry about the 10% performance difference between Plan 9
implementation and FreeBSD or Linux. What matters is whether we can tolerate
the performance loss. As long as my apps like acme, sam, charon, etc run
sufficiently fast, why would I worry?
I also like the clean screen when Plan 9 (rio) starts: it is like starting
with a clean slate.
Regards
dharani
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote:
>
> > I think the speed is not the main matter of Plan 9, anyway.
>
> My memory is at some point it was. An intro by Honeyman at the '89 Usenix
> for a Plan 9 speaker ended with "... and he can't believe how slow X11
> is". Gosh, was it even called Plan 9 then? Is my memory wrong? I think it
> was starting to be called Plan 9.
>
> Did speed stop being a goal when Plan 9 got slower? Personally, I like
> speedy OSes. I do recall an Infocomm in 1996 where a speaker from Bell
> Labs (Holmdel) presented numbers showing FreeBSD running 10% faster than
> Plan 9 for some TCP measurements. I was surprised, as until that time I
> had assumed Plan 9 would be faster. So had the speaker. So had, according
> to the speaker, the folks at Murray Hill. Nobody expected FreeBSD to win
> that race.
>
> Side note: at some point (late 70s) I think I used just about every OS
> that ran on a PDP11 (including the Pascal-based one from Hansen, not the
> boy-band, but Per Brinch). For speed, V6 Unix always crushed them all,
> including the vendor OSes which were supposed to be so much superior (e.g.
> RSX). Speed was one distinguishing feature of Unix, the others being
> better design, code, capabilities, and, oh, everything else.
>
> We know Plan 9 has the better design, code, capabilities, etc. It would be
> nice at some point to be able to say that speed is a distinguishing
> feature of Plan 9. Is it fundamentally impossible?
>
> ron
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-06 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-06 5:28 okamoto
2003-02-06 5:40 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 15:15 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 15:39 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan [this message]
2003-02-06 15:45 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 16:31 ` rob pike, esq.
2003-02-06 16:36 ` rob pike, esq.
2003-02-06 16:56 ` matt
2003-02-06 17:11 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 17:25 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2003-02-06 17:32 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 17:44 ` Sam
2003-02-06 18:07 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 18:14 ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 18:17 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 20:36 ` Dean Prichard
2003-02-06 18:35 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 18:43 ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 19:12 ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 19:20 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-02-06 17:06 ` [9fans] Re: Clean Code & Performance Jack Johnson
2003-02-06 17:23 ` [9fans] GCC3.0 [Was; Webbrowser] David Butler
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-07 1:46 okamoto
2003-02-06 20:13 Keith Nash
2003-02-06 21:29 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2003-02-06 21:33 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-06 21:40 ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-07 8:44 ` Richard Miller
2003-02-07 13:51 ` matt
2003-02-07 14:03 ` Boyd Roberts
2003-02-07 0:06 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-07 5:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-06 17:50 C H Forsyth
2003-02-06 18:08 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 1:19 [9fans] Webbrowser Russ Cox
2003-02-06 3:00 ` [9fans] GCC3.0 [Was; Webbrowser] andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 4:16 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 14:24 ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 15:30 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 17:32 ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 18:10 ` William K. Josephson
2003-02-06 18:16 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 18:23 ` William K. Josephson
2003-02-06 21:09 ` Ronald G. Minnich
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