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From: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] GCC3.0 [Was; Webbrowser]
Date: Thu,  6 Feb 2003 11:07:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061047570.11322-100000@carotid.ccs.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0302061213450.20787-100000@athena>

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Sam wrote:

> I just don't understand what you conceive as "slow."

Well, on Pink, a 1024-node cluster we just built here, I can fire up a
command to 1024 nodes from start to completion in < 4 seconds, and we
consider that slow. Lest you think this a worthless benchmark I can tell
you that startup overhead matters when scaling to this size system. My
hunch is that Plan 9 would not start up quite this fast. But that is only
based on very limited experience with 'cpu'.

But you are correct in that I am not being specific. Sadly, my impressions
are based on work done here last summer measuring TCP etc., and Andrey
knows way better than I what the outcome of that was.

However that doesn't much matter; what I'm taking from this discussion is
that most Plan 9 users, who are developers not end-users, are satisfied
with the performance of the system as is and see no need to try to make it
competitive with the *nux* breeds. Given the overall far better quality of
Plan 9 as an OS I find that understandable.

That said, I did think David Butler's remarks were pretty interesting.

Thanks

ron
p.s. What I really want to know: is Google going to run Plan 9 :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-06 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-06  5:28 okamoto
2003-02-06  5:40 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 15:15 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 15:39   ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2003-02-06 15:45     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 16:31       ` rob pike, esq.
2003-02-06 16:36         ` rob pike, esq.
2003-02-06 16:56           ` matt
2003-02-06 17:11             ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 17:25               ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2003-02-06 17:32                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 17:44               ` Sam
2003-02-06 18:07                 ` Ronald G. Minnich [this message]
2003-02-06 18:14                   ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 18:17                     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 20:36                       ` Dean Prichard
2003-02-06 18:35                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 18:43                       ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 19:12                         ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 19:20                       ` Scott Schwartz
2003-02-06 17:06         ` [9fans] Re: Clean Code & Performance Jack Johnson
2003-02-06 17:23       ` [9fans] GCC3.0 [Was; Webbrowser] David Butler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-07  1:46 okamoto
2003-02-06 20:13 Keith Nash
2003-02-06 21:29 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2003-02-06 21:33   ` Russ Cox
2003-02-06 21:40     ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-07  8:44       ` Richard Miller
2003-02-07 13:51         ` matt
2003-02-07 14:03           ` Boyd Roberts
2003-02-07  0:06     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-07  5:32     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-06 17:50 C H Forsyth
2003-02-06 18:08 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06  1:19 [9fans] Webbrowser Russ Cox
2003-02-06  3:00 ` [9fans] GCC3.0 [Was; Webbrowser] andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06  4:16   ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 14:24     ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 15:30       ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-06 17:32         ` David Presotto
2003-02-06 18:10           ` William K. Josephson
2003-02-06 18:16             ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-06 18:23               ` William K. Josephson
2003-02-06 21:09                 ` Ronald G. Minnich

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