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From: "Boyd Roberts" <boyd@fr.inter.net>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] how people learn things (was architectures)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:48:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <090d01c10b81$06b9c850$c0b7c6d4@SOMA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107130800.KAA02977@boris.cd.chalmers.se>

> Anything that encourages them to believe that they can get away
> with designing rotten user interfaces because they are biologically
> superior to the rest of the world must be attacked with a machete
> whenever you find it.  And yes, some of these people are making Boyd's
> life less pleasant than it could be because they do indeed like to
> make things complicated because their crippled egos (or lack of
> judgement, or _something_), desparately compels them to fill their
> world with things that they can use to demonstrate how incredibly
> smart they are.  The ability to impress other people and themselves
> with how smart they are is a #1 motivating factor for them.

this is exactly the problem i've seen in the real world.  it only
demonstrates how stupid they are.  their systems break.  it's
_obvious_ they will break.  and when they do break they can't
fix them.  they will ask others to help them out.  the basic
(and correct) response is:

    throw it away and build it right

but the investment is always seen to be too great so it gets
glued back together so it 'works' and it keeps 'nurses'
employed.  build it so it works and then move on and use
your time to do more interesting things rather than having
it wasted nursing this junk.




  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-13  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-13  8:00 Laura Creighton
2001-07-13  9:48 ` Boyd Roberts [this message]
2001-07-13 15:25   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-13 15:44     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13 20:47   ` Steve Kilbane
2001-07-14 14:45     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13 15:25 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-13  9:12 okamoto
2001-07-13 10:07 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13 10:49   ` Lucio De Re
2001-07-13 10:59     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13 11:11       ` Lucio De Re
2001-07-13 15:26         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-13 16:20           ` Lucio De Re
2001-07-14  0:28             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-16  8:54             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-16  9:55               ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13  9:17 okamoto
2001-07-13 12:49 presotto
2001-07-13 13:38 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13 15:44 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-14  0:19   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-02 10:27   ` Ralph
2001-08-02 11:24     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-03  9:05       ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-08-03 10:15         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-13 16:22 rog
2001-07-14  0:23 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-16  8:54 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-16 15:46   ` david presotto
2001-07-13 16:32 jmk
2001-07-16  8:55 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-16 15:21   ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-16 16:21 rog
2001-07-16 16:46 ` suspect
2001-07-16 18:15 David Gordon Hogan

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