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From: David Presotto <presotto@closedmind.org>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 ports to unix (including libdraw)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:30:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c737f73c143cf69bebede3c337acd1a@plan9.bell-labs.com> (raw)

We need help.  We're falling further behind in supported devices.  We
could use a real browser.  We need better C++ support (someone to
really finish dave hogan's gnu work).  Rsc and I have discussed some
possible projects to keep us going with a small number of people:

- a way to wrap linux drivers so we could use them in our kernel.

	We wouldn't want our most important drivers run this way, but
	it would be nice to quickly get drivers for stuff noone has
	time to work on.

- a native port of X (i.e.  one that actually integrates well with
 plan 9 rather then a straight port).

	If we're going to get a browser that we can use (or use one on
	another machine) this is one way to do it.  Current browsers
	may be outside of our philosophy, but who can live without
	one?

- a better POSIX porting environment.

	'configure' should at least figure out how to build for us.
	Ape isn't quite there.

- an emulation environment we could run Linux binaries in.

	I'm less sanguine about this but it might be a quicker way to
	using stuff from Linux.

I've said Linux rather than FreeBSD.  I like the latter better but the
Linux would be more useful.

I'm not pronouncing our effort at the labs dead (we still depend on
Plan 9 for a lot of stuff) but it sure is moving a lot slower and the
vultures aren't jumping as far away when we throw rocks at them.


             reply	other threads:[~2003-10-17 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-17 16:30 David Presotto [this message]
2003-10-20  2:01 ` okamoto
2003-10-20  6:33   ` Nigel Roles
2003-10-20  8:29   ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-20  8:45     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-10-20  8:45     ` okamoto
2003-10-20  8:50       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-10-20 17:21   ` ron minnich
2003-10-20 19:30     ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-20 19:40       ` ron minnich
2003-10-20 20:07         ` mirtchov
2003-10-20 20:14           ` ron minnich
2003-10-20 21:08             ` David Presotto
2003-10-20 21:08           ` Enache Adrian
2003-10-20 21:17             ` mirtchov
2003-10-20 21:23               ` Scott Schwartz
2003-10-20 21:39                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-10-20 23:12     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-10-21  1:16       ` okamoto
2003-10-21  2:48         ` okamoto
2003-10-21  3:23       ` Russ Cox
2003-10-21  3:33         ` okamoto
2003-10-21  3:56           ` Russ Cox
2003-10-21  4:01             ` ron minnich
2003-10-21 12:05               ` David Presotto
2003-10-21  6:28             ` Nigel Roles
2003-10-21  7:37             ` Richard Miller
2003-10-22  2:01               ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-10-21  9:39       ` a
2003-10-21 14:01     ` paurea
2003-10-21 16:05       ` C H Forsyth
2003-10-21 17:11         ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-10-21 11:20           ` Charles Forsyth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-17 18:21 Caerwyn B Jones
2003-10-17 20:35 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-10-17 15:48 matt
2003-10-17 16:02 ` Nigel Roles
2003-10-17 16:14   ` matt
2003-10-17 15:13 Richard C Bilson
2003-10-17 13:03 Caerwyn B Jones
2003-10-13 18:31 Russ Cox
2003-10-13 21:34 ` Caerwyn Jones
2003-10-14  0:53 ` arisawa
2003-10-14 18:09 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-10-14 18:10 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-10-17  2:53 ` Richard C Bilson
2003-10-17  3:02   ` William Josephson
2003-10-17  9:42   ` a
2003-10-17 14:30   ` Joel Salomon
2003-10-17 14:38     ` Joel Salomon
2003-10-17 23:57       ` Bruce Ellis
2003-10-17 17:25   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2003-10-17 18:00     ` matt
2003-10-17 18:06       ` Roman Shaposhnick
2003-10-17 21:16         ` matt

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