From: "Nigel Roles" <nigel@9fs.org>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: RE: [9fans] plan 9 ports to unix (including libdraw)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:28:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <HOEHIDJJJINMLFPOLFJCEEAKDFAA.nigel@9fs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ABndH-0000Nf-HE@t40.swtch.com>
9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu wrote:
>>> real data. Especially now that my Venti server is mirrored
>>> across two different-model 200GB IDE drives.
>>
>> How about IDE problem which Niger wrote.
>
> That's why I'm mirroring across two different-model 200GB drives.
> The theory is that they're not that likely to fail simultaneously.
> If you believe that a drive will fail once a year (which I think is
> high) then two drives independently failing together will happen once
> every few centuries, which is low enough that I can worry about
> other problems, like my apartment catching fire.
>
> Russ
It's certainly true that simultaneous failures are unlikely, and
you should check your fire extinguisher in your apartment, but I
think Geoff made the point a while back that the probability of
failure for every given day is not 1/365.25; it starts high,
drops to near zero, and then climbs rapidly in the few months before
the warranty runs out. This is the "bath tub reliability curve".
Also, if I cannot get to my machine for a few weeks, this
significantly widens the window for a simultaneous failure.
I think a few centuries is optimistic.
In my case I'm more interested in having someone else already
worked out how to replace and rebuild a drive when it fails, hence
a need for a reputable RAID BIOS.
Mentioning no names, our experience with SCSI U320 drives (i.e.
the des. res. drives of the moment) is that price is not a guide
to reliability.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-21 6:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-17 16:30 David Presotto
2003-10-20 2:01 ` okamoto
2003-10-20 6:33 ` Nigel Roles
2003-10-20 8:29 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-20 8:45 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-10-20 8:45 ` okamoto
2003-10-20 8:50 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-10-20 17:21 ` ron minnich
2003-10-20 19:30 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-20 19:40 ` ron minnich
2003-10-20 20:07 ` mirtchov
2003-10-20 20:14 ` ron minnich
2003-10-20 21:08 ` David Presotto
2003-10-20 21:08 ` Enache Adrian
2003-10-20 21:17 ` mirtchov
2003-10-20 21:23 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-10-20 21:39 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-10-20 23:12 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-10-21 1:16 ` okamoto
2003-10-21 2:48 ` okamoto
2003-10-21 3:23 ` Russ Cox
2003-10-21 3:33 ` okamoto
2003-10-21 3:56 ` Russ Cox
2003-10-21 4:01 ` ron minnich
2003-10-21 12:05 ` David Presotto
2003-10-21 6:28 ` Nigel Roles [this message]
2003-10-21 7:37 ` Richard Miller
2003-10-22 2:01 ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-10-21 9:39 ` a
2003-10-21 14:01 ` paurea
2003-10-21 16:05 ` C H Forsyth
2003-10-21 17:11 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-10-21 11:20 ` Charles Forsyth
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-17 18:21 Caerwyn B Jones
2003-10-17 20:35 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-10-17 15:48 matt
2003-10-17 16:02 ` Nigel Roles
2003-10-17 16:14 ` matt
2003-10-17 15:13 Richard C Bilson
2003-10-17 13:03 Caerwyn B Jones
2003-10-13 18:31 Russ Cox
2003-10-13 21:34 ` Caerwyn Jones
2003-10-14 0:53 ` arisawa
2003-10-14 18:09 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-10-14 18:10 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-10-17 2:53 ` Richard C Bilson
2003-10-17 3:02 ` William Josephson
2003-10-17 9:42 ` a
2003-10-17 14:30 ` Joel Salomon
2003-10-17 14:38 ` Joel Salomon
2003-10-17 23:57 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-10-17 17:25 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2003-10-17 18:00 ` matt
2003-10-17 18:06 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2003-10-17 21:16 ` matt
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