Re: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?

Re: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?

[David Presotto]

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Vac (backing up to venti) runs on windows systems.  You can back up using that, though
at the moment getting files back has to come via plan9.  That will eventually be fixed.
Of course, we don't backup exactly the windows access rights (they have a rather rich
access list).

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From: a@9srv.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:05:20 -0500
Message-ID: <92b1b45db0abc8b9206b9d8b3612b855@9srv.net>

at work we run a handful of Win32 servers (god help me) and a
few unix servers. we're doing tape backup nightly. our full
backups are at the limit of what our tape drive can deal with
and are still growing. so we need to come up with a different
solution.

and, more to the point, i *HATE* tape backup.

further, plan9's dump fs is the best backup system i've ever
seen (and, along with /lib/ndb, the thing that made me fall
in love with the system as a sysadmin).

so... any suggestions on how to use either the old 3e fs,
fossil, and/or venti to perform backups from non-plan9
systems? the largest system generates about 50-60GB for a
full backup (of the data we care about backin up, which
isn't most of the system), thre's two more in about the
20-30GB range, and we don't currently have numbers for how
much changes incrementally (but i believe it to be about
10% daily). Almost all of the data lives on Win32 servers.
Preserving metadata (specifically, dates, ownerships, and
permissions) is important.

tips? comments? experiences?

much thanks,
ア

Re: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?

[Joel Salomon]

David Presotto said:
> Vac (backing up to venti) runs on windows systems.  You can back up
> using that, though at the moment getting files back has to come via
> plan9.  That will eventually be fixed.

By porting samba, or by some other method? Just curious.

> Of course, we don't backup exactly the windows access rights (they have a
> rather rich access list).

Can a SMB server implement these on it's own? Samba only handles whatever
POSIX ACLs handle, and only on platforms that have them.

--Joel

[9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?

[Vladimir Vinogradov]

You can use cacls utility shipped with Windows or xcacls
from NTResKit to store/retrieve file permissions to/from separate file
and put it in your backup.
- VVV -

[9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?

[a]

at work we run a handful of Win32 servers (god help me) and a
few unix servers. we're doing tape backup nightly. our full
backups are at the limit of what our tape drive can deal with
and are still growing. so we need to come up with a different
solution.

and, more to the point, i *HATE* tape backup.

further, plan9's dump fs is the best backup system i've ever
seen (and, along with /lib/ndb, the thing that made me fall
in love with the system as a sysadmin).

so... any suggestions on how to use either the old 3e fs,
fossil, and/or venti to perform backups from non-plan9
systems? the largest system generates about 50-60GB for a
full backup (of the data we care about backin up, which
isn't most of the system), thre's two more in about the
20-30GB range, and we don't currently have numbers for how
much changes incrementally (but i believe it to be about
10% daily). Almost all of the data lives on Win32 servers.
Preserving metadata (specifically, dates, ownerships, and
permissions) is important.

tips? comments? experiences?

much thanks,
ア