From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple experiment
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:57:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f5626954298d3d1eaf583aabcf19e9c@kw.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100429234245.GA87408@willers.employees.org>
> I agree that NAT and stateful firewalls (e.g. 'ip inspect' in IOS)
> would need explicit support to understand the packet layout.
what il services would you apply spi to? one doesn't
ftp or http over il.
> NAT - it should simply die, until then
> run IL over IPv6 and avoid NAT?
il isn't defined over ip6.
why should nat die? translating network addresses
from one network to another seems natural enough
to me—and quite similar to what various storage systems
do to present logical volumes. why should renumber a formerly
private network because i'd like to hook it up to
the internet? why should i renumber my network
because i change service providers? why is using nat
to make many hosts look like one a bad thing?
- erik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-29 23:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-27 17:38 ron minnich
2010-04-27 17:49 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-27 18:05 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-04-27 22:20 ` ron minnich
2010-04-27 22:22 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-27 17:54 ` jake
2010-04-27 17:57 ` John Floren
2010-04-27 17:59 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-27 18:35 ` John Floren
2010-04-27 18:56 ` Jorden M
2010-04-27 19:03 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-27 22:23 ` ron minnich
2010-04-28 11:51 ` Steve Simon
2010-04-28 13:18 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-04-28 13:26 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 13:50 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-04-28 14:03 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 15:15 ` Charles Forsyth
2010-04-28 13:20 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 17:52 ` Tim Newsham
2010-04-28 17:57 ` Tim Newsham
2010-04-28 18:00 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 18:42 ` ron minnich
2010-04-28 19:06 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 19:40 ` Russ Cox
2010-04-28 20:36 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-04-28 20:51 ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 13:19 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-04-28 21:05 ` EBo
2010-04-28 21:14 ` ron minnich
2010-04-28 22:06 ` EBo
2010-04-28 21:15 ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-04-28 23:18 ` [9fans] references/citations [was: A simple experiment] EBo
2010-04-28 21:18 ` [9fans] A simple experiment Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-28 23:04 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-04-29 12:40 ` roger peppe
2010-04-29 12:54 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 14:35 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 15:06 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 15:24 ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 15:34 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 16:06 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 16:09 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 17:08 ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-29 17:20 ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 17:32 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30 2:30 ` Anthony Sorace
2010-04-30 4:27 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30 10:51 ` hiro
2010-04-30 14:46 ` Anthony Sorace
2010-04-29 17:23 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30 3:47 ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-30 5:01 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30 15:59 ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-30 16:13 ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-02 21:26 ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-29 18:52 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2010-04-29 19:03 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 19:54 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 19:58 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 20:25 ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-03 11:34 ` Akshat Kumar
2010-04-29 19:47 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 17:48 ` Tim Newsham
2010-04-29 17:59 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 18:41 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 18:42 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 19:48 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 19:44 ` C H Forsyth
2010-04-29 19:58 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 20:41 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 14:22 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 14:36 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 14:43 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 15:03 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 15:16 ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 15:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-04-29 18:24 ` EBo
2010-04-29 15:06 ` Gabriel Díaz
2010-04-29 20:32 ` Christopher Nielsen
2010-04-29 20:40 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 22:39 ` Christopher Nielsen
2010-04-29 20:45 ` hiro
2010-04-29 23:42 ` Derek Fawcus
2010-04-29 23:57 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2010-04-30 9:44 ` Charles Forsyth
2010-04-29 15:18 ` ron minnich
2010-04-27 22:21 ` ron minnich
2010-04-27 21:36 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-04-27 21:54 ` EBo
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