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From: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 versus CORBA?
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:19:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010925141950.92B86199DD@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

I think you misrepresent the purpose of security.  Its role is to
prevent us getting work done.  If someone constructs a security
solution that is usable, experts will focus on it like a cat watching
a mouse hole until a fatal flaw is found.  This results in three
things: 1) The technology is disabled, making it impossible to work
again.  2) A solution is worked on, distracting people from getting
regular work done.  3) Finally, a new solution is deployed, requiring
people to spend time updating their systems and networks rather than
getting work done.  At this point, security has failed because people
are working, so the cat goes back to the hole and in a few days the
mouse emerges and is caught and life returns to normal.

So the rule of security is the following: if you are able to work on
something other than security, your system is insecure.

-rob



             reply	other threads:[~2001-09-25 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-25 14:19 rob pike [this message]
2001-09-26 15:44 ` Dan Cross
2001-09-28 12:24 ` Re[2]: " Matt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-26 13:24 jmk
2001-09-26 13:33 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-26  6:12 okamoto
2001-09-26  6:07 okamoto
2001-09-26  9:48 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-26  5:41 geoff
2001-09-26  9:47 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-26  3:18 okamoto
2001-09-26  3:13 okamoto
2001-09-26  4:44 ` Christopher Nielsen
2001-09-26  4:50   ` David Arnold
2001-09-26  9:01   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-26  1:48 okamoto
2001-09-26  2:44 ` david presotto
2001-09-26  1:34 presotto
2001-09-26  1:26 okamoto
2001-09-25 14:29 forsyth
2001-09-25 13:42 presotto
2001-09-25  2:07 presotto
2001-09-24 22:46 rob pike
2001-09-25  8:36 ` Andrew Simmons
2001-09-24  9:17 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2001-09-21 16:11 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2001-09-21 15:29 anothy
2001-09-21 16:03 ` Dan Cross
2001-09-21 14:54 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2001-09-21 13:37 ` Lucio De Re
2001-09-21 14:29 Sape Mullender
2001-09-21 14:26 jmk
2001-09-21 16:25 ` suspect
2001-09-21 14:04 Andrew Simmons
2001-09-21 14:25 ` andrey mirtchovski
2001-09-21 14:29   ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-09-21 15:16   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-09-21 14:28 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-09-24  8:51   ` Andrew Simmons
2001-09-24 16:25     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-24 22:43       ` George Michaelson
2001-09-24 22:54         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:37           ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25  0:39             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:55               ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25  1:00                 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:42             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:56               ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25  1:00                 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  1:23                   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-09-25  2:27                     ` Dan Cross
2001-09-25  2:31                       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  2:12                   ` Dan Cross
2001-09-25  2:32                     ` William Josephson
2001-10-01  9:51     ` Mike Warner
2001-09-21 14:33 ` Alexander Viro

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