Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

>Please, update the Wiki pages...

Wiki page from here usually timeout these days (from Plan 9).
I'm busy for other work, and I have no time to search what's going on.
Sorry.

Kenji

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[forsyth]

>>I don't think it's a question of right or wrong, but I haven't looked
>>at the recommendations of the controlling bodies.

in the case i'm thinking of (some variants of the FA310) it was
Netgear that said it was somehow incorrect and included a diskette for
Windows to compensate if you got one of the older ones.  since i had got
only the one and had no idea whether it was one of the ones they
thought had a problem, i'm not really sure what that problem was!

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[jmk]

When a generic PCI chip is used by a different vendor in their product
they sometimes have the choice of how to present the vendor and device id.
They can keep them to reflect the original manufacturer of the chip or they
can put in their own (if they have been assigned one and if the chip allows).
In the former case you can often find the extra information in the sub-vendor
fields in the PCI config space. E.g. the Netgear GA622T card I have presents
the vendor+device id as 0x100B+0x0022, which is the id for the National
Semiconductor DP83820 Gig-NIC, and the sub-vendor fields are 0x1385+0x622A
which identifies the vendor as Netgear; the DP83820 has the vendor+device id
wired in.  On the other hand, Netgear GA620T cards, based on the Alteon Tigon
chip, present the vendor+device id as 0x1385+0x630A; like many chips, the
Tigon allows the id to be set from EEPROM on reset.

I don't think it's a question of right or wrong, but I haven't looked
at the recommendations of the controlling bodies.

On Fri Oct 19 07:33:24 EDT 2001, forsyth@vitanuova.com wrote:
> >>It means that your nvidia card has PCI vendor
> >>id 0x10DE and device id 0x0111, the best
> >>way to identify a vga card.  No grubbing
> >>around in the bios.
> 
> usually, but for instance Netgear has a card with the wrong values.
> fortunately, it's an ether card, not a graphics card, and
> their newer versions have the right values.

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[forsyth]

>>It means that your nvidia card has PCI vendor
>>id 0x10DE and device id 0x0111, the best
>>way to identify a vga card.  No grubbing
>>around in the bios.

usually, but for instance Netgear has a card with the wrong values.
fortunately, it's an ether card, not a graphics card, and
their newer versions have the right values.

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[Boyd Roberts]

Lucio De Re wrote:
> Release?  Both Boyd and I will host your unfinished work, if I may
> presume.

repo will be in an interesting state soon.  I need to find another ISP.


btw: repo is in France.  I will no longer be in France.
     I may have another solution, but I'm too busy at
     the moment.

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[Lucio De Re]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 02:32:20AM -0400, Russ Cox wrote:
> 
> I started a rewrite of aux/vga a year ago to go even
> further toward making vgadb a last resort, but it
> got stalled.  Maybe I'll return to it some day.
> 
Release?  Both Boyd and I will host your unfinished work, if I may
presume.

++L

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

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Thanks Russ.  
I added my nvidia data to the section of "how to use nVidia".

Kenji


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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 02:22:35 -0400
Message-ID: <20011019062238.8220119A06@mail.cse.psu.edu>

> Wiki page from here usually timeout these days (from Plan 9).

It's fixed now.  Thanks for the report.

Russ

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[Russ Cox]

> What does this mean?
> 1   0/0 0300 10de 0111   9  0:fd000000 16777216 1:f0000008 134217728 

It means that your nvidia card has PCI vendor
id 0x10DE and device id 0x0111, the best
way to identify a vga card.  No grubbing
around in the bios.

I think I've mentioned it here before, but
I changed our as-yet-unreleased aux/vga to identify
cards by vendor/device id pairs exactly as above.
For example, our current nvidia vgadb entry looks like:

ctlr
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0020		# Riva TNT
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0028		# Riva TNT2
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0029		# Riva TNT2 Ultra
	vid=0x10DE did=0x002C		# Riva TNT2 Vanta
	vid=0x10DE did=0x002D		# Riva TNT2 M64
	vid=0x10DE did=0x00A0		# Riva TNT2 Integrated
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0100		# GeForce 256
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0101		# GeForce DDR
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0103		# Quadro
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0110		# GeForce2 MMX
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0111		# GeForce2 MMX DDR
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0112		# GeForce2 Go
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0113		# Quadro 2 MXR
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0150		# GeForce2 GTS
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0151		# GeForce2 GTS (rev 1)
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0152		# GeForce2 Ultra
	vid=0x10DE did=0x0153		# Quadro 2 Pro
	link=vga
	ctlr=nvidia linear=1
	hwgc=nvidiahwgc

which would have detected your card just fine.
I started a rewrite of aux/vga a year ago to go even
further toward making vgadb a last resort, but it
got stalled.  Maybe I'll return to it some day.

Russ

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[Russ Cox]

> Wiki page from here usually timeout these days (from Plan 9).

It's fixed now.  Thanks for the report.

Russ

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

Inspired by the Russ's message, I tried to find another more
specific identifier string, and found that here.

0XC0108="AOpen MX200 VGA BIOS Version 1.00-143N"

Kenji

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

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So, what does this mean?

Kenji


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That printed as follows:

bus  dev type vid  did intl memory
 0   0/0 0600 8086 7180   0  
 0   1/0 0604 8086 7181   0  
 0   7/0 0601 8086 7110   0  
 0   7/1 0101 8086 7111   0  4:0000ecb1 -65520 
 0   7/2 0c03 8086 7112  11  4:0000ece1 -65504 
 0   7/3 0680 8086 7113   0  
 0  18/0 0200 10ec 8029  10  0:0000ecc1 32 
 1   0/0 0300 10de 0111   9  0:fd000000 16777216 1:f0000008 134217728 

Kenji


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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:54:50 -0400
Message-ID: <20011018115454.5592519A67@mail.cse.psu.edu>

> 0xC001E="IBM VGA Compatible"
> This card can do upto 1376x1024x32.

I'd be a little worried about using this
as the identifier, since it's bound
to happen again on a non-nVidia card.

What does /sys/lib/pcdist/bin/386/pci print?
Look for the line with type 0300:

g% pci
bus  dev type vid  did intl memory
 0   0/0 0600 8086 7180   0  
 0   1/0 0604 8086 7181   0  
 0   7/0 0601 8086 7110   0  
 0   7/1 0101 8086 7111   0  4:0000f001 -65520 
 0   7/2 0c03 8086 7112   9  4:0000e001 -65504 
 0   7/3 0680 8086 7113   0  
 0   8/0 0200 10b7 5900  10  0:0000e401 32 
 0   9/0 0200 10b7 5900   9  0:0000e801 32 
 1   0/0 0300 5333 8a22  10  0:ed000000 524288 1:e0000008 134217728 <<<< what does this say?
g%

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

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That printed as follows:

bus  dev type vid  did intl memory
 0   0/0 0600 8086 7180   0  
 0   1/0 0604 8086 7181   0  
 0   7/0 0601 8086 7110   0  
 0   7/1 0101 8086 7111   0  4:0000ecb1 -65520 
 0   7/2 0c03 8086 7112  11  4:0000ece1 -65504 
 0   7/3 0680 8086 7113   0  
 0  18/0 0200 10ec 8029  10  0:0000ecc1 32 
 1   0/0 0300 10de 0111   9  0:fd000000 16777216 1:f0000008 134217728 

Kenji


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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:54:50 -0400
Message-ID: <20011018115454.5592519A67@mail.cse.psu.edu>

> 0xC001E="IBM VGA Compatible"
> This card can do upto 1376x1024x32.

I'd be a little worried about using this
as the identifier, since it's bound
to happen again on a non-nVidia card.

What does /sys/lib/pcdist/bin/386/pci print?
Look for the line with type 0300:

g% pci
bus  dev type vid  did intl memory
 0   0/0 0600 8086 7180   0  
 0   1/0 0604 8086 7181   0  
 0   7/0 0601 8086 7110   0  
 0   7/1 0101 8086 7111   0  4:0000f001 -65520 
 0   7/2 0c03 8086 7112   9  4:0000e001 -65504 
 0   7/3 0680 8086 7113   0  
 0   8/0 0200 10b7 5900  10  0:0000e401 32 
 0   9/0 0200 10b7 5900   9  0:0000e801 32 
 1   0/0 0300 5333 8a22  10  0:ed000000 524288 1:e0000008 134217728 <<<< what does this say?
g%

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[Russ Cox]

> 0xC001E="IBM VGA Compatible"
> This card can do upto 1376x1024x32.

I'd be a little worried about using this
as the identifier, since it's bound
to happen again on a non-nVidia card.

What does /sys/lib/pcdist/bin/386/pci print?
Look for the line with type 0300:

g% pci
bus  dev type vid  did intl memory
 0   0/0 0600 8086 7180   0  
 0   1/0 0604 8086 7181   0  
 0   7/0 0601 8086 7110   0  
 0   7/1 0101 8086 7111   0  4:0000f001 -65520 
 0   7/2 0c03 8086 7112   9  4:0000e001 -65504 
 0   7/3 0680 8086 7113   0  
 0   8/0 0200 10b7 5900  10  0:0000e401 32 
 0   9/0 0200 10b7 5900   9  0:0000e801 32 
 1   0/0 0300 5333 8a22  10  0:ed000000 524288 1:e0000008 134217728 <<<< what does this say?
g%

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[pac]

Please, update the Wiki pages...
http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/47/index.html
Thanks, Peter.


--
Peter A Cejchan
biologist
Acad. Sci., Prague, CZ
<cej at cejchan dot gli dot cas dot cz>

Re: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

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>This card can do upto 1376x1024x32.

Sorry, this should be 1600x1200x32.
I forgot I had changed monitor definition.

Kenji


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From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:56:51 +0900
Message-ID: <20011018055519.4AD60199FF@mail.cse.psu.edu>

Hi

The nVidia card of mine as shown in the title use no identification
string int that BIOS.   So my entry point of the card is:

0xC001E="IBM VGA Compatible"

This card can do upto 1376x1024x32.

Kenji   --just a report

[9fans] AOpen MX200 Geforce2(32MB)

[okamoto]

Hi

The nVidia card of mine as shown in the title use no identification
string int that BIOS.   So my entry point of the card is:

0xC001E="IBM VGA Compatible"

This card can do upto 1376x1024x32.

Kenji   --just a report