Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[forsyth]

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aux/vga doesn't serve it; #v/vgactl is the kernel's exposed interface
to its part of the vga graphics support.


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To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:06:42 +0200
Message-ID: <20011026140642.E19815@cackle.proxima.alt.za>

On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 12:35:03PM +0100, forsyth@vitanuova.com wrote:
> 
> it isn't bound automatically so you need
> 	bind -b '#v' /dev
> to make it appear in /dev, or use
> 	echo -n 'size 800x600x8' >'#v/vgactl'
> 
> that's probably still not what you intend, because VGA being what it is,
> a host of major and minor register values need to be adjusted in most cases,
> in a device-dependent way.  use aux/vga, described by vga(8).
> read the manual page first, though.  aux/vga eventually sets the
> using vgactl, but sets all those registers first, if it can.
> it needs to be done outside rio.

Wouldn't it make more sense for aux/vga to serve /dev/vga* after
initialising the environment?  I suppose the right answer is "Try it",
or am I missing something?

++L

[9fans] charon / tcp pasthrough sniffing

[Matt]

I'm trying to defeat all the shenanigans on www.genie.co.uk in order
to send sms messages without having to use the website

they use some tricky techniques to prevent scripting such as a random
redirected url and 6 cookies!

I thought I'd worked it out but no.

I'm about to sniff the tcp to see what exactly the browser sends to
the site so I can script it

Is there some general purpose tcp sniffing technique I can adopt with
the clever use of cat /net/tcp/N/data or something?

I tried a tcp passthrough last time I worked on this but never got it
working!

any help out there?

TIA Matt

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[Lucio De Re]

On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 04:36:18PM +0100, forsyth@vitanuova.com wrote:
> 
> aux/vga doesn't serve it; #v/vgactl is the kernel's exposed interface
> to its part of the vga graphics support.
> 
I'll always carry my first language with me and will never learn to
disambiguate English sentences.

I meant: "Would it make sense for aux/vga to set up the VGA
environment - based on a much simpler kernel device - and then serve
/dev/vga* itself?"

++L

Re: [9fans] charon / tcp pasthrough sniffing

[Jonadab the Unsightly One]

matt@proweb.co.uk (Matt) writes:

> I'm trying to defeat all the shenanigans on www.genie.co.uk
> they use some tricky techniques to prevent scripting [...]
> Is there some general purpose tcp sniffing technique

Have you already set web browsers aside and spoken directly with the
web server (via HTTP) to see what _exactly_ it's doing?  I've been
known to resort to this (using libwww-perl, but there are other
ways to do the same thing) for particularly intractible websites.

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[Lucio De Re]

On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 11:09:51AM -0400, Russ Cox wrote:
> 
> I think it would make a lot of sense for vga
> to present a file system so you can switch modes,
> control external outputs on laptops, get back to
> text mode, etc.  Maybe it'll happen.  (Maybe it won't.)
> 
Noted.  It's the type of experiment I can see myself getting quite
deep into before I get distracted.  I'll post whatever progress I
make on the CVS server (I'll post the URL or somesuch before long).


If it's OK with everyone, I'd like suggestions to come to this
mailing list.  I occasionally fall off it, though, so sending me
a copy won't hurt.

++L

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[Russ Cox]

> Wouldn't it make more sense for aux/vga to serve /dev/vga* after
> initialising the environment?  I suppose the right answer is "Try it",
> or am I missing something?

I think it would make a lot of sense for vga
to present a file system so you can switch modes,
control external outputs on laptops, get back to
text mode, etc.  Maybe it'll happen.  (Maybe it won't.)

Russ

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[Matt Senecal]

Thank you! :)

<forsyth@vitanuova.com> wrote in message
news:20011026113426.2838D199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu...
> it isn't bound automatically so you need
> bind -b '#v' /dev
> to make it appear in /dev, or use
> echo -n 'size 800x600x8' >'#v/vgactl'
>
> that's probably still not what you intend, because VGA being what it is,
> a host of major and minor register values need to be adjusted in most
cases,
> in a device-dependent way.  use aux/vga, described by vga(8).
> read the manual page first, though.  aux/vga eventually sets the
> using vgactl, but sets all those registers first, if it can.
> it needs to be done outside rio.

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[Lucio De Re]

On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 12:35:03PM +0100, forsyth@vitanuova.com wrote:
> 
> it isn't bound automatically so you need
> 	bind -b '#v' /dev
> to make it appear in /dev, or use
> 	echo -n 'size 800x600x8' >'#v/vgactl'
> 
> that's probably still not what you intend, because VGA being what it is,
> a host of major and minor register values need to be adjusted in most cases,
> in a device-dependent way.  use aux/vga, described by vga(8).
> read the manual page first, though.  aux/vga eventually sets the
> using vgactl, but sets all those registers first, if it can.
> it needs to be done outside rio.

Wouldn't it make more sense for aux/vga to serve /dev/vga* after
initialising the environment?  I suppose the right answer is "Try it",
or am I missing something?

++L

Re: [9fans] Where is vgactl?

[forsyth]

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it isn't bound automatically so you need
	bind -b '#v' /dev
to make it appear in /dev, or use
	echo -n 'size 800x600x8' >'#v/vgactl'

that's probably still not what you intend, because VGA being what it is,
a host of major and minor register values need to be adjusted in most cases,
in a device-dependent way.  use aux/vga, described by vga(8).
read the manual page first, though.  aux/vga eventually sets the
using vgactl, but sets all those registers first, if it can.
it needs to be done outside rio.

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To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] Where is vgactl?
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:24:34 GMT
Message-ID: <50ecc828.0110251744.6dc580ce@posting.google.com>

OK, maybe I'm just dumb, but I think I'm doing this right.

I'm trying to change the VGA setting for my system. According to the
docs if I want to change the size of the screen I type:

echo -n 'size 800x600x8' >/dev/vgactl

Right? When I do, I get an error stating something to the effect that
it can't find vgactl. Sure enough, it's not in /dev...or anywhere! Am
I going about this correctly?

[9fans] Where is vgactl?

[Matt Senecal]

OK, maybe I'm just dumb, but I think I'm doing this right.

I'm trying to change the VGA setting for my system. According to the
docs if I want to change the size of the screen I type:

echo -n 'size 800x600x8' >/dev/vgactl

Right? When I do, I get an error stating something to the effect that
it can't find vgactl. Sure enough, it's not in /dev...or anywhere! Am
I going about this correctly?