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From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: advantages of limbo
Date: Tue,  2 Mar 2004 11:30:01 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403020730.i227U1tg071218@adat.davidashen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58c9a09539806ad0e5d6c0b07b3c7c89@plan9.escet.urjc.es>

> But just to tell you what I mean, I feel that limbo lacks those
> features that make Java a complex laguage, yet it retains
> those that make it easy to reuse code. That's arguable, of course.

But Java is a SIMPLER language than limbo. 

It has fewer basic structures and orthogonal notions in the language.

It does not use ugly idea of separating module interfaces from
module implementations.

It does not use kludges like 'cyclic' to compensate for deficiencies
of the underlying virtual machine.

Yet it is more powerful in expressing algorithms. Things like closures
or message polymorphism are natural and easy to express in Java, while
either not possible or inconvenient in limbo.

David


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-02  7:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <f62d09b11d1f097b3f4b5f6b70b65ea5@proxima.alt.za>
2004-03-02  6:58 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  7:06   ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02  7:08     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  7:14       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02  7:30         ` David Tolpin [this message]
2004-03-02  7:37           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02  7:48             ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  9:50               ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 20:50               ` Andrew Simmons
2004-03-02 20:56                 ` matt
2004-03-02 20:57                   ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 12:44           ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-02  7:50   ` lucio
2004-03-02  7:56     ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  8:12       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-02  8:12         ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  8:45           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-02  8:51             ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  9:06               ` David Presotto
2004-03-02  9:14                 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  9:26                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-02 15:04       ` rog
2004-03-02 15:12         ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 16:03         ` C H Forsyth
2004-03-02 16:06           ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 16:24             ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 16:35             ` C H Forsyth
2004-03-02 17:18     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-02 12:39   ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-02  8:02 David Presotto
2004-03-02  8:20 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02  8:55   ` David Presotto
2004-03-02  9:20   ` Rob Pike
     [not found] <918d202b192f1bcb8dd969285010a329@proxima.alt.za>
2004-03-02  8:37 ` David Tolpin
     [not found] <d02d8014f5f4b58c6863ec7a3cd652ee@proxima.alt.za>
2004-03-02  9:07 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 10:04   ` lucio
2004-03-02 10:08     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 11:35       ` matt
2004-03-02 18:38         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02 19:03           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 19:10             ` rog
2004-03-02 19:08               ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 15:03 rog
2004-03-03  7:21 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-03-03  7:29 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-03  7:31   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-03  7:37 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-03-03 12:29 ` boyd, rounin

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