From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: advantages of limbo
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:37:10 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403020837.i228bAv4071610@adat.davidashen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <918d202b192f1bcb8dd969285010a329@proxima.alt.za>
> > Are there code examples in limbo and Java which can convince someone
> > that limbo is more convenient?
> >
> ... you're edging closer to a religious topic. There are
> philosophical differences between Limbo and Java that can only be
> considered, not explained. Like there are between Pascal and C. Can
> you convincingly state that C is _better_ than Pascal without
> resorting to some untestable philosophical principle? I know I
> cannot, in either direction.
C and Pascal where created for different programming applications.
Pascal had never been thought of as a language for systems programming.
I'd consider philosophically comparing C and Oberon, but it's another
issue.
Going back to limbo, I see one advantage that would overweigh all
the drawbacks. If limbo could be integrated into an OS other than
Inferno (e.g. Plan 9) better than perl is (that is, if one can and
does rewrite acme in limbo for Plan 9, for example), then it is a
difference big enough to win.
Right now, Java and limbo are in the same position of external
tools artificially brought in.
> Where I think Limbo has the edge, is that it is not the product of a
> marketing organisation that has discovered yet another marketable
> product, but that it grew from a desire to get things done to a clear
> philosophical direction.
What is the philosophical direction?
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2004-03-02 8:37 ` David Tolpin [this message]
2004-03-03 7:37 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-03-03 12:29 ` boyd, rounin
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2004-03-03 7:21 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-03-03 7:29 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-03 7:31 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-03-02 15:03 rog
[not found] <d02d8014f5f4b58c6863ec7a3cd652ee@proxima.alt.za>
2004-03-02 9:07 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 10:04 ` lucio
2004-03-02 10:08 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 11:35 ` matt
2004-03-02 18:38 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-02 19:03 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 19:10 ` rog
2004-03-02 19:08 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 8:02 David Presotto
2004-03-02 8:20 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 8:55 ` David Presotto
2004-03-02 9:20 ` Rob Pike
[not found] <f62d09b11d1f097b3f4b5f6b70b65ea5@proxima.alt.za>
2004-03-02 6:58 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 7:06 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 7:08 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 7:14 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 7:30 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 7:37 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 7:48 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 9:50 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-02 20:50 ` Andrew Simmons
2004-03-02 20:56 ` matt
2004-03-02 20:57 ` ron minnich
2004-03-02 12:44 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-02 7:50 ` lucio
2004-03-02 7:56 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 8:12 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-02 8:12 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 8:45 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-02 8:51 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 9:06 ` David Presotto
2004-03-02 9:14 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 9:26 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-02 15:04 ` rog
2004-03-02 15:12 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 16:03 ` C H Forsyth
2004-03-02 16:06 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 16:24 ` David Tolpin
2004-03-02 16:35 ` C H Forsyth
2004-03-02 17:18 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-02 12:39 ` Bruce Ellis
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