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From: splite@purdue.edu
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] scrollbar
Date: Thu,  4 Mar 2004 15:21:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040304202107.GB11430@sigint.cs.purdue.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8c61638952c59311ca82e8479d92a1a@vitanuova.com>

On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 05:43:54PM +0000, rog@vitanuova.com wrote:
> the only plausible reason i can come up with is that if you're drawing
> the scrollbar only when you need to and you add the scrollbar on the
> left, then all the text will jump rightwards.

Not an issue for Apple; Mac OS scrollbars were always drawn in the active
window, even if all the content was visible.  Inactive windows still had
the scrollbar space allocated, but the controls weren't drawn in.

http://toastytech.com/guis/moremacwrd1desk.gif

> it's interesting (ok, ok, it's deadly dull, but i'll continue anyway)
> that when steve jobs did nextstep (post leaving apple) he put the
> scrollbars on the left; when nextstep became macos X, the scrollbars
> were moved to the right.

The Dock was enough to confuse Mac OS users without moving the scrollbars
too.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-04 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-04 10:48 Tiit Lankots
2004-03-04 10:54 ` matt
2004-03-04 13:38 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 17:15 ` Rob Pike
2004-03-04 17:22   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-04 17:43   ` rog
2004-03-04 20:21     ` splite [this message]
2004-03-05  4:42       ` ron minnich
2004-03-05  4:45         ` Bakul Shah
2004-03-05 18:45         ` [9fans] borders rog
2004-03-05 18:40           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-05 18:49             ` rog
2004-03-05 18:44               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-05 19:08                 ` rog
2004-03-04 19:04   ` [9fans] scrollbar splite
2004-03-04 19:07     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-04 19:17       ` rog
2004-03-04 21:10         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-04 22:28           ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 19:15     ` rog
2004-03-04 20:56       ` splite
2004-03-04 21:39     ` Bakul Shah
2004-03-04 21:51       ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-04 22:10         ` splite
2004-03-04 22:40         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-05  0:33           ` Derek Fawcus
2004-03-05 11:33             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-05  1:16           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-05  1:59             ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-05  3:45               ` David Presotto
2004-03-05 11:50                 ` 9nut
2004-03-05 14:31                   ` Michael H. Collins
2004-03-05 14:26                 ` Michael H. Collins
2004-03-05  2:00             ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-05  9:14               ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-03-05 11:36             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 10:57 Tiit Lankots
2004-03-04 11:05 ` matt
2004-03-04 11:17 ` plan9
2004-03-04 11:15 Tiit Lankots
2004-03-05 14:58 David Presotto
2004-03-05 16:33 ` Michael H. Collins

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