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From: splite@purdue.edu
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] scrollbar
Date: Thu,  4 Mar 2004 15:56:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040304205609.GC11430@sigint.cs.purdue.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <237641cacfecc9570bd05d826e0f938b@vitanuova.com>

On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 07:15:18PM +0000, rog@vitanuova.com wrote:
> sorry, this is veering sharply off-topic, but i have

Oh, I dunno.  I think Comparative GUIology is relevant, especially where
Plan 9 diverges from every "major" platform.

> to say the thing that annoys me most about scrollbars
> on the right is that it forces me to have the entire
> window on screen - i can't read the text if the left hand
> side is off screen, and i can't scroll it if the right hand side is
> (and often if you resize it smaller, a horizontal scrollbar,
> that bane of humanity, appears to make things even worse)

I considered that before but decided the argument was bogus.  If you have
unused window area on the right, make the window narrower.  If not, why
cover up the right side of the window?  If you truly don't care about the
right-side content, then what do you lose by making the window narrower?
You won't have need to scroll horizontally anyway.

I realize that some might move windows partially off the right side of the
screen as a space-saving measure, but that seems more like an argument for
better window management than against right-side scrollbars.

I'm really not advocating for right-side scrollbars; I was just guessing
as to why Apple might have put them there.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-04 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-04 10:48 Tiit Lankots
2004-03-04 10:54 ` matt
2004-03-04 13:38 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 17:15 ` Rob Pike
2004-03-04 17:22   ` Rob Pike
2004-03-04 17:43   ` rog
2004-03-04 20:21     ` splite
2004-03-05  4:42       ` ron minnich
2004-03-05  4:45         ` Bakul Shah
2004-03-05 18:45         ` [9fans] borders rog
2004-03-05 18:40           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-05 18:49             ` rog
2004-03-05 18:44               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-05 19:08                 ` rog
2004-03-04 19:04   ` [9fans] scrollbar splite
2004-03-04 19:07     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-04 19:17       ` rog
2004-03-04 21:10         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-04 22:28           ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 19:15     ` rog
2004-03-04 20:56       ` splite [this message]
2004-03-04 21:39     ` Bakul Shah
2004-03-04 21:51       ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-04 22:10         ` splite
2004-03-04 22:40         ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-05  0:33           ` Derek Fawcus
2004-03-05 11:33             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-05  1:16           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-05  1:59             ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-05  3:45               ` David Presotto
2004-03-05 11:50                 ` 9nut
2004-03-05 14:31                   ` Michael H. Collins
2004-03-05 14:26                 ` Michael H. Collins
2004-03-05  2:00             ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-05  9:14               ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-03-05 11:36             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-04 10:57 Tiit Lankots
2004-03-04 11:05 ` matt
2004-03-04 11:17 ` plan9
2004-03-04 11:15 Tiit Lankots
2004-03-05 14:58 David Presotto
2004-03-05 16:33 ` Michael H. Collins

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