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From: Martin Neubauer <m.ne@gmx.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Samterm up down key patch
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:08:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061114140809.GC11151@shodan.homeunix.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13426df10611140525k68c31de1s525c816957352836@mail.gmail.com>

* ron minnich (rminnich@gmail.com) wrote:
> On 11/14/06, Martin Neubauer <m.ne@gmx.net> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm not quite convinced of the merit of that behaviour. The most direct
> >consequence is that it makes sam inconsistent with acme and rio windows.
>
> But maybe rio and acme are wrong.

Then so is sam (the standard one).

>
> I guess we can worry about internal consistency in plan 9, but fact
> is, in the rest of the known universe, uparrow goes up a line,
> downarrow goes down, they move the cursor.

Don't I know it. Admittedly, it took me a while to get used to the way it
is, but the fact is I _like_ it that way. The last thing I want to start is
a cursor war. (I try to keep in mind I'm still considering my computer
ideology-free.)

>
> We've got page up and page down; we could always use them. It was bad
> enough when right arrow and left arrow did what they did ....
>
> If we're halfway to readline, well, then, maybe people want it, and we
> should have it, and not having it was a mistake all along.  You should
> be different if it makes sense; otherwise, don't.
>
> But the worst thing we can do is fall into the 'it's always worked
> this way' mantra. At that point, you might as well be a Fortran
> programmer.

There isn't much to do than to agree with that. Perhaps I should work on not
getting around as too harsh. I didn't want to dismiss the change per se, but
just state my current opinion (which is liable to change any time without
prior notice).

	Martin



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-14 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14  1:02 Joey Makar
2006-11-14 10:49 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:04   ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:26     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:38       ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:04         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 13:25   ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:44       ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 14:04         ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 14:16         ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:42           ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-14 17:03               ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joey Makar
2006-11-14 20:03             ` John Floren
2006-11-14 21:57               ` Russ Cox
2006-11-14 22:06                 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-15  9:40               ` Matt
2007-01-30  9:55               ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:34                 ` John Stalker
2006-11-14 18:10         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 18:21           ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 18:35             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:52               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 19:14                 ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 19:18                   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-11-14 19:34                 ` rog
2006-11-14 19:40                   ` csant
2006-11-14 19:52                     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 18:22           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-15  4:43       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15  4:57         ` John Floren
2006-11-15  5:13           ` Russ Cox
2006-11-15  5:32             ` John Floren
2006-11-15  9:27               ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-15 14:09             ` David Arnold
2006-11-16  2:49             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-16 13:46               ` plan9
2006-11-16 13:55                 ` Abhey Shah
2006-11-17 16:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-20  5:48             ` Noah Evans
2007-01-30 11:28             ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:35               ` Russ Cox
2007-01-30 11:45                 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-11-15  5:28         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15 16:26           ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 14:08     ` Martin Neubauer [this message]
2006-11-14 14:20     ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 15:07       ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 18:03     ` David Leimbach

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