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From: "David Leimbach" <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: [9fans] Samterm up down key patch
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:10:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e1162e60611141010x257ab08encccda28e14f8df2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13426df10611140544i5d4d2928nea0d64cd955a3b38@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/14/06, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/14/06, erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
>
> > who said we have to be like the rest of the world.  i thought the
> > point of plan 9 was to be different.  the rest of the world uses sockets
> > and nfs, too. ;-)
>
> ;-) taken :-)
>
> we have to be, not just different, but better. Some aspects of Plan 9
> strike me as different for difference's sake. I don't see a point to
> it.

I didn't immediately either.  However I've been organizing my data in
hierarchies thanks to the Unix filesystem for a long long time now,
people are starting to realize that searching for data based on
metadata and getting fuzzy results is sometimes better when you have
92 Terrabytes of data in your iMac.  Ok, that's an exaggeration, but
you get my point I'd hope.

I think a lot of the way editors were written in the 80s was due to
the fact that people probably didn't really "get" the mouse the way I
think it was intended to be uhm... gotten.

If you look back at the englebart demos, I see a lot of things that
make me think more of Acme than emacs or vi.  I also kind of want a
chording keyboard on my left now as a result.

The necessary momentum to make people change their minds on some
things can be really difficult to achieve, and sometimes the effort to
learn something better does distract from the focus of getting work
done.  In effect better becomes the enemy of good enough (Voltaire?)

So that's why people still use Fortran on giant MPI clusters :-).  And
why Lisp will never take over the world, and why Acme will always be
subject to patches to make cursors move with arrow keys.

I think it's just human nature.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-14 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14  1:02 Joey Makar
2006-11-14 10:49 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:04   ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:26     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:38       ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:04         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 13:25   ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:44       ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 14:04         ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 14:16         ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:42           ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-14 17:03               ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joey Makar
2006-11-14 20:03             ` John Floren
2006-11-14 21:57               ` Russ Cox
2006-11-14 22:06                 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-15  9:40               ` Matt
2007-01-30  9:55               ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:34                 ` John Stalker
2006-11-14 18:10         ` David Leimbach [this message]
2006-11-14 18:21           ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 18:35             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:52               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 19:14                 ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 19:18                   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-11-14 19:34                 ` rog
2006-11-14 19:40                   ` csant
2006-11-14 19:52                     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 18:22           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-15  4:43       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15  4:57         ` John Floren
2006-11-15  5:13           ` Russ Cox
2006-11-15  5:32             ` John Floren
2006-11-15  9:27               ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-15 14:09             ` David Arnold
2006-11-16  2:49             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-16 13:46               ` plan9
2006-11-16 13:55                 ` Abhey Shah
2006-11-17 16:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-20  5:48             ` Noah Evans
2007-01-30 11:28             ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:35               ` Russ Cox
2007-01-30 11:45                 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-11-15  5:28         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15 16:26           ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 14:08     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:20     ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 15:07       ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 18:03     ` David Leimbach

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