From: "Bruce Ellis" <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: [9fans] Samterm up down key patch
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:22:50 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775b8d190611141022i7c95417fr65b7842369a53d5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60611141010x257ab08encccda28e14f8df2@mail.gmail.com>
Berlioz recounts his first sighting of orchestral velum.
"oh what wonderful music can be written on this ..."
I had a similar reaction when I first sat in front of a blit,
and rob couldn't drag me away from it. 23 years later
I still embrace the simplicity. A UI that isn't in your face.
I'd bannish the ctrl-key but sometimes you wanta reboot.
brucee
On 11/15/06, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/14/06, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/14/06, erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
> >
> > > who said we have to be like the rest of the world. i thought the
> > > point of plan 9 was to be different. the rest of the world uses sockets
> > > and nfs, too. ;-)
> >
> > ;-) taken :-)
> >
> > we have to be, not just different, but better. Some aspects of Plan 9
> > strike me as different for difference's sake. I don't see a point to
> > it.
>
> I didn't immediately either. However I've been organizing my data in
> hierarchies thanks to the Unix filesystem for a long long time now,
> people are starting to realize that searching for data based on
> metadata and getting fuzzy results is sometimes better when you have
> 92 Terrabytes of data in your iMac. Ok, that's an exaggeration, but
> you get my point I'd hope.
>
> I think a lot of the way editors were written in the 80s was due to
> the fact that people probably didn't really "get" the mouse the way I
> think it was intended to be uhm... gotten.
>
> If you look back at the englebart demos, I see a lot of things that
> make me think more of Acme than emacs or vi. I also kind of want a
> chording keyboard on my left now as a result.
>
> The necessary momentum to make people change their minds on some
> things can be really difficult to achieve, and sometimes the effort to
> learn something better does distract from the focus of getting work
> done. In effect better becomes the enemy of good enough (Voltaire?)
>
> So that's why people still use Fortran on giant MPI clusters :-). And
> why Lisp will never take over the world, and why Acme will always be
> subject to patches to make cursors move with arrow keys.
>
> I think it's just human nature.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-14 18:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-14 1:02 Joey Makar
2006-11-14 10:49 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:04 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:26 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:38 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:04 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 13:25 ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 13:34 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:44 ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 14:04 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 14:16 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:42 ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48 ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-14 17:03 ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48 ` Joey Makar
2006-11-14 20:03 ` John Floren
2006-11-14 21:57 ` Russ Cox
2006-11-14 22:06 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-15 9:40 ` Matt
2007-01-30 9:55 ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:34 ` John Stalker
2006-11-14 18:10 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 18:21 ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 18:35 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:52 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 19:14 ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 19:18 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-11-14 19:34 ` rog
2006-11-14 19:40 ` csant
2006-11-14 19:52 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 18:22 ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2006-11-15 4:43 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15 4:57 ` John Floren
2006-11-15 5:13 ` Russ Cox
2006-11-15 5:32 ` John Floren
2006-11-15 9:27 ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-15 14:09 ` David Arnold
2006-11-16 2:49 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-16 13:46 ` plan9
2006-11-16 13:55 ` Abhey Shah
2006-11-17 16:44 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-20 5:48 ` Noah Evans
2007-01-30 11:28 ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:35 ` Russ Cox
2007-01-30 11:45 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-11-15 5:28 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15 16:26 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 14:08 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:20 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 15:07 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 18:03 ` David Leimbach
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