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From: "Bruce Ellis" <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: [9fans] Samterm up down key patch
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:22:50 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <775b8d190611141022i7c95417fr65b7842369a53d5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60611141010x257ab08encccda28e14f8df2@mail.gmail.com>

Berlioz recounts his first sighting of orchestral velum.

"oh what wonderful music can be written on this ..."

I had a similar reaction when I first sat in front of a blit,
and rob couldn't drag me away from it.  23 years later
I still embrace the simplicity.  A UI that isn't in your face.
I'd bannish the ctrl-key but sometimes you wanta reboot.

brucee

On 11/15/06, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/14/06, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/14/06, erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
> >
> > > who said we have to be like the rest of the world.  i thought the
> > > point of plan 9 was to be different.  the rest of the world uses sockets
> > > and nfs, too. ;-)
> >
> > ;-) taken :-)
> >
> > we have to be, not just different, but better. Some aspects of Plan 9
> > strike me as different for difference's sake. I don't see a point to
> > it.
>
> I didn't immediately either.  However I've been organizing my data in
> hierarchies thanks to the Unix filesystem for a long long time now,
> people are starting to realize that searching for data based on
> metadata and getting fuzzy results is sometimes better when you have
> 92 Terrabytes of data in your iMac.  Ok, that's an exaggeration, but
> you get my point I'd hope.
>
> I think a lot of the way editors were written in the 80s was due to
> the fact that people probably didn't really "get" the mouse the way I
> think it was intended to be uhm... gotten.
>
> If you look back at the englebart demos, I see a lot of things that
> make me think more of Acme than emacs or vi.  I also kind of want a
> chording keyboard on my left now as a result.
>
> The necessary momentum to make people change their minds on some
> things can be really difficult to achieve, and sometimes the effort to
> learn something better does distract from the focus of getting work
> done.  In effect better becomes the enemy of good enough (Voltaire?)
>
> So that's why people still use Fortran on giant MPI clusters :-).  And
> why Lisp will never take over the world, and why Acme will always be
> subject to patches to make cursors move with arrow keys.
>
> I think it's just human nature.
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-14 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14  1:02 Joey Makar
2006-11-14 10:49 ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:04   ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:26     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 13:38       ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:04         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 13:25   ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 13:44       ` ron minnich
2006-11-14 14:04         ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 14:16         ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:42           ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joel Salomon
2006-11-14 17:03               ` maht
2006-11-14 16:48             ` Joey Makar
2006-11-14 20:03             ` John Floren
2006-11-14 21:57               ` Russ Cox
2006-11-14 22:06                 ` David Leimbach
2006-11-15  9:40               ` Matt
2007-01-30  9:55               ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:34                 ` John Stalker
2006-11-14 18:10         ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 18:21           ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 18:35             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-14 18:52               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 19:14                 ` Sape Mullender
2006-11-14 19:18                   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-11-14 19:34                 ` rog
2006-11-14 19:40                   ` csant
2006-11-14 19:52                     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-11-14 18:22           ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2006-11-15  4:43       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15  4:57         ` John Floren
2006-11-15  5:13           ` Russ Cox
2006-11-15  5:32             ` John Floren
2006-11-15  9:27               ` Gorka guardiola
2006-11-15 14:09             ` David Arnold
2006-11-16  2:49             ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-16 13:46               ` plan9
2006-11-16 13:55                 ` Abhey Shah
2006-11-17 16:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2006-11-20  5:48             ` Noah Evans
2007-01-30 11:28             ` Harri Haataja
2007-01-30 11:35               ` Russ Cox
2007-01-30 11:45                 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-11-15  5:28         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-15 16:26           ` David Leimbach
2006-11-14 14:08     ` Martin Neubauer
2006-11-14 14:20     ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 15:07       ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-11-14 18:03     ` David Leimbach

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