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From: Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Colors and other fun
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:35:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070627203508.3DA905B3B@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:39:55 +0200." <82c890d00706271239k10113e4er89c1572d042781ac@mail.gmail.com>

> i see the point of 3d when doing tools for visualizing representation
> of things that should be moved live like a car model, or a building
> plant or quake. May be he is speaking about this? something like
> opengl or directx :-?

Consider for example google earth or a CAD program -- if you
ever played with revit you'd realize just how clunky Autocad
is.  Consider 3d video games.  Consider something like a
flight simulator -- all the one I played with were very
clunky to interact with.  Can we do something to make it easy
to visualize complex information in a virtual 3d space and
navigate around it or modify it?  Can there be an interface
for a sculptor to model something he wishes to build?  Why
must such things be separate "applications"?  Why can't we
just treat each "window" as a piece of paper and shuffle it
around, bend a corner, crumple it up, stretch it out, do some
origami with?

Take my question in whichever direction you want.
Some times misunderstanding leads to invention!

> > What's more usable about 3d than 2d for a GUI desktop?

Turn your question around.  If you had a 3d UI what useful
(or playful) things can you do that you can't do today?  If
you come up with something you'd want to do, what else can be
added/changed/removed to make the UI simpler and more useful?

> > I use Acme on Mac OS X as my main editor for most things these days
> > actually.  The only things I really miss are when I'm editing scheme or lis
> p
> > and need to match up all those damned parenthesis.  In those cases I use
> > Emacs... it's just better at it (and no stopping to click to highlight
> > open/close parens doesn't do it for me as much as automatic code indentatio
> n
> > based on syntax gets me)

Do you write any haskell/python in acme?

If the editor showed each s-expr at a different height &
color and if you could look at your program from a 45 angle,
you'd see what's what :-)


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-27 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-27  9:37 pavlovetsky
2007-06-27 10:08 ` Lucio De Re
2007-06-27 15:07   ` Rob Pike
2007-06-27 18:26     ` Bakul Shah
2007-06-27 18:35       ` Kris Maglione
2007-06-27 19:09         ` Bakul Shah
2007-06-27 19:24           ` David Leimbach
2007-06-27 19:39             ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-06-27 20:35               ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2007-06-27 21:20                 ` Jack Johnson
2007-06-29  2:16                   ` Bakul Shah
2007-06-27 19:51             ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-27 21:49               ` Jack Johnson
2007-07-02  8:55           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-06-28  4:42     ` Anant Narayanan
2007-06-28  4:50       ` andrey mirtchovski
2007-06-28 17:30     ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-06-27 15:59 ` andrey mirtchovski
2007-06-27 16:23   ` Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
2007-06-27 17:55     ` Steve Simon
2007-06-27 18:03       ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-27 18:22         ` Rob Pike
2007-06-28 15:26         ` Steve Simon
2007-06-27 18:03       ` Kris Maglione
2007-06-27 18:59 Russ Cox
2007-06-27 19:13 ` Tim Wiess
2007-06-27 21:25 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-06-27 15:41   ` john
2007-06-27 21:56     ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-27 16:18       ` john
2007-06-27 22:06       ` Kris Maglione
2007-06-27 21:48 ` Markus Sonderegger

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