Re: [9fans] Colors and other fun

["Gabriel Diaz" <gabidiaz@gmail.com>]

hello

i see the point of 3d when doing tools for visualizing representation
of things that should be moved live like a car model, or a building
plant or quake. May be he is speaking about this? something like
opengl or directx :-?

slds.

gabi


On 6/27/07, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> On 6/27/07, Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> > > By 3D design, do you mean 3D widgets? You might note that most
> > > Plan 9 apps don't use widget toolkits (although libframe is sort
> > > of like one), but libpanel (by Tom Duff, used by mothra) uses 3D
> > > widgets, as does Inferno's Tk (although both are ugly by most
> > > standards; I'm no fan).
> >
> > I don't mean 3D widgets in particular.  I don't even like the
> > word widget.  If they'd called it a gizmo it might have
> > evolved differently....
> >
> > I am not sure what I mean :-)  Guess some sort of 3D UI.  A
> > way to deal with 3d objects.  Things like Cocoa's (x)(-)(+)
> > 3d buttons are pretty silly and you don't lose anything by
> > flattening them.  Eyecandy is not what I mean.  To me design
> > is more about function, not just making things non-ugly.
> >
>
> What's more usable about 3d than 2d for a GUI desktop?
>
>
> Apple spent a long time implementing overlapping windows for their first
> GUIs they were copying from Xerox... except that Xerox didn't have
> overlapping windows.  They made their work much harder for themselves.
>
> Now consider Acme... Windows aren't overlapped, they're tiled, you can hide
> windows but then you can also find them again.  Kind of nice and efficient.
>
> If I didn't have overlapping windows, Expose on Mac OS X would be much less
> interesting now wouldn't it?
>
>  It's a shame when a new feature requires a new feature to use that new
> feature.
>
> What's the point?  Job security?
>
>
> I use Acme on Mac OS X as my main editor for most things these days
> actually.  The only things I really miss are when I'm editing scheme or lisp
> and need to match up all those damned parenthesis.  In those cases I use
> Emacs... it's just better at it (and no stopping to click to highlight
> open/close parens doesn't do it for me as much as automatic code indentation
> based on syntax gets me)
>
> I've honestly also not really tried to figure out if Acme's minimal
> auto-indenting can help me with this.
>
>
> Dave
>
> Dave