[9fans] Postscript and troff

[9fans] Postscript and troff

[Prof Brucee]

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Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?

brucee

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Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bruce Ellis]

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Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)?

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?
>
> brucee
>

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Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Steve Simon]

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If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry.

http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures

-Steve


> On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)?
> 
> brucee
> 
>> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?
>> 
>> brucee
> 

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Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bruce Ellis]

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Specifically html.

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:

>
> If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a
> group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry.
>
> http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures
>
> -Steve
>
>
> On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)?
>
> brucee
>
> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?
>>
>> brucee
>>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bruce Ellis]

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I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good
solution".

There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files.

For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to
postprocess troff output.

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 19:37, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Specifically html.
>
> brucee
>
> On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a
>> group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry.
>>
>> http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)?
>>
>> brucee
>>
>> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?
>>>
>>> brucee
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bakul Shah]

This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX.
Then you can embed EPS easily!

:-)

On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good
> solution".
>
> There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files.
>
> For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to
> postprocess troff output.
>
> brucee

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bruce Ellis]

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bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time
for another good TeX hack.

:-) brucee

On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:

> This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX.
> Then you can embed EPS easily!
>
> :-)
>
> On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good
> > solution".
> >
> > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files.
> >
> > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to
> > postprocess troff output.
> >
> > brucee
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bakul Shah]

https://bima.astro.umd.edu/nemo/man_html/tr2latex.l.html

No idea how good it is though.

On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time
> for another good TeX hack.
>
> :-) brucee
>
> On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
>
> > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX.
> > Then you can embed EPS easily!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good
> > > solution".
> > >
> > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files.
> > >
> > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to
> > > postprocess troff output.
> > >
> > > brucee

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

[Bakul Shah]

Via http://ftp.cs.stanford.edu/tex/texhax/texhax89.088
So only for -ms or -man.  bwk's way may be better for your purpose.

+----
| Date: Fri, 22 Sep 89 12:30:59 PDT
| From: Phil Farrell <farrell@erebus.Stanford.EDU>
| Subject: Re: TeX, troff, man pages
| Keywords: TeX, troff, man pages
|
| In TeXhax vol 89, issue 85, William LeFebvre says:
| > I've often thought of implementing the troff man macros in TeX.  If
| > that were done, then one could just TeX-off the printed form whenever
| > desired but still have "nroff -man" for the man command.  So what's
| > needed?  First, we need to define "(newline)." as the equivalent of an
| > escape character.  Any takers?
|
| There is another existing way to do this.  The UNIX TeX distribution includes
| a contributed program tr2tex from a former student here at Stanford that
| can convert troff manuscripts that use either -ms or -man macros to LaTeX
| documents.  It doesn't do a perfect job for complicated troff constructions,
| but the simple macros normally used in man pages come through just fine.
|
| This isn't the real answer for replacing troff with TeX on UNIX systems
| because it still requires that you keep nroff around and it still requires
| that you know the -man macros for writing man pages.  What I think is
| needed is a combination of a LaTeX style option that forces the output
| to use a constant-width font and constant line spacing, etc; plus a
| dvi interpreter that can reproduce such a restricted output on a normal
| terminal screen.  For the fairly simple documents that are used as on-line
| documentation (no math and only simple tables that can be done with tabs)
| this would allow regular typesetting via LaTeX for printed copies, but
| also permit viewing on a normal dumb terminal by including the special
| style option and processing through the special dvi interpreter.  I am
| afraid, however, that this would be a rather large project to undertake
| and unfortunately can never imagine having the time to do it myself.
|
| Phil Farrell, Computer Systems Manager
| Stanford University School of Earth Sciences
| farrell@erebus.stanford.edu
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On Thu, 04 May 2017 22:41:57 PDT Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> https://bima.astro.umd.edu/nemo/man_html/tr2latex.l.html
>
> No idea how good it is though.
>
> On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time
> > for another good TeX hack.
> >
> > :-) brucee
> >
> > On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX.
> > > Then you can embed EPS easily!
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good
> > > > solution".
> > > >
> > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files.
> > > >
> > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to
> > > > postprocess troff output.
> > > >
> > > > brucee
>